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Gary S
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David your post reminds me of the story about my Grandfathers jeep.He had a early civilian one in the late '40's and he had it when he built the house we now live in,which is on a very steep hill.He used to go to town to play cards with his Legion buddies and pack down the snow on the drive.Everyone else in the family would get mad because they then had to park at the bottom of the hill and walk up. He too had a metal top and our road was so bad my Dad said it was like sitting inside a drum. 50 years later I'm the one packing down the snow--- |
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63 Skier
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I know the ride was bad in the'57, but when you are 17 it just doesn't matter! I plowed, I commuted, I launched/retrieved boats, I stuffed 5 friends in, it was a blast. I agree on the CJ-7, I'm not an off-road guy so the extra room would be useful. |
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'63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique
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Swatkinz
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David, my 42's top speed was probably around 50mph as well. It was a neat vehicle, but as mentioned previously, was so impractical to drive it almost wasn't fun. Would've been really neat to have around a farm or other large off road property. Just not fun to drive on even secondary roads. If I were in the market for a jeep to tinker with, I think I'd look for a V8 CJ7. I like the golden eagles and renegades myself, but to each his own |
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Steve
2011 Sport/Air 200 Excalibur 343 2017 Boatmate Tandem Axle Trailer Former CC owner (77, 80, 95, 88, all SNs) Former Malibu owner (07, 09) |
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63 Skier
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For a while reading this thread I thought I had the crown for oldest Jeep (formerly) owned, but as usual my bubble was burst, Swatkinz with the cool '42!
My dad had a Navy Jeep in the early '60's, I can picture it but don't know any details. Then he got a '57 CJ-5 and I ended up driving that right through high school, I think we sold it in '83 or so. I had so much fun in that Jeep, had a tin hard top that gave a loud clang every time you hit a big bump, 3 speed with max of maybe 50 mph. Unstoppable, rugged little vehicle. It was a rust bucket so we over the years put a lot of bondo and sheet metal into it to keep it on the road, we also plowed with it. I have a huge regret - our neighbor had a '56 CJ with 6 volt system, plow, mechanical winch. It was in perfect condition, no rust, and I could have bought it in the early '80's but passed. A 70's CJ would be a fun project (nice rig Salty!), and like Kevin said so would a Bronco, they were very capable vehicles and in those days a Bronco wasn't much bigger than a CJ. Landcruisers are nice but I can't get excited over a Toyota restoration, sorry! |
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'63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique
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WakeSlayer
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Now that you mention the seat heaters, I did have one fail at like 98k miles. I guess I assumed that using them 8 months out of the year, that was just a random useage failure. Guessing the fact that they did not automatically turn off was the culprit. Now they time out and turn themselves off.
I just bought out my lease on my 08 GCO today. I love that car... It has the lifetime drivetrain warranty, that in itself is worth it. Oddly, for the first time in my life I am right side up at the end of a lease. Vehicle is worth $26-28k, and the residual is $15.1k. |
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Mike N
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8122pbrainard
Grand Poobah Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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If you look at one of these as a project and it's a real early one, be careful if you live in a snow and ice area. Check to make sure it doesn't have a "posi" front end. Ford thought it would be a great idea to offer posi both front and rear until they found out on ice they wouldn't turn!! I was out in Montana at the time and there were people driving over the edge off the roads. Remember no salt - winter meant driving on snow/ice pack roads!! |
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horkn
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You are lucky then, very lucky. I've been on the jeep forums for a long time, and the ltd or overland wj's are pretty problematic. Common issues are the blend doors for the HVAC, clock springs on 99s especially, dana 44A (rear axle) failures, CD changer breakage, driveshaft problems, seat heater failiures, just to name a few. My parents 99 4.7 wj ltd went through 2 sets of blend doors 9 the first at 30k, jeep replaced them with new and improved ones under warranty (1600 dollar fix had it not been in warranty) and then those new improved blend doors went again at like 60k. I replaced them with the heater treater blend door fix after that. The driveshafts were all changed due to imbalance issues (under warranty luckily, tranny speed sensors went out at 60k or so (out of warranty), clock spring went at like 50k, giving an air bag fault (out of warranty), CD changer totally failed, but I took it apart and fixed it, cheap build quality, and it also had serious brake shimmy issues that the warranty finally solved after the 3rd repair. Ours has had no issues with its d44a axle, but those are well documented as being sub par, so that is the only thing we got lucky on that jeep with. Even after all those issues, and most had them, WJ grands are very well liked vehicles as they are the last solid axle front and back grand cherokees. |
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78 martinique- refloored, reinforced, stringers re glassed, re engineered interior
GT40P heads Edelbrock Performer intake acme 4 blade http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/horkn/fish/nautique.jpg |
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bchesley
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The modern jeeps have come a long way. My wife has a 07 commander overlander with a hemi. Its been a great truck so far at 75K. We ordered a 99 and had it for three years and it was great too. The older ones on the other had are not so reliable. I have had an 83, 87, 88, and an 89 grand wagoneers and they are a breed all their own. Mostly because they still had AMC in their DNA. Once chrysler took over in 87 they slowly got better.
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WakeSlayer
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Actually, I have had three of the WJ GC Ltd's. 1999, and two 2002's. All with the 4.7. One 02 was an Overland. No noticeable problems, and I drive the crap out of them. 28-30k a year. I hated my 2005 Ltd. I currently have an 08 Overland that i am buying the lease out. Only problem I have had in 73k is headlight leveling switch. |
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Mike N
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harddock
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Ok 66-77 |
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JohnnyBananas
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I'm going to have to agree with Nautique Fan...the BJ40 landcruiser has always been a favorite of mine. Look awesome and are tons of fun. Good luck, should be a fun bonding task for you and the boys.
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Nautique Fan
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Another option would be the first generation FJ40 landcruisers. I always thought they would be a cool project to take on. Looks like the late 70's models have a lot more upgrades over the first decade of the ones built. Not sure if it was 76 or 78 they went to the 2F engine and Disk brakes on the front. If you are in to diesels, they also made a BJ40.
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1997 Nautique Super Sport
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horkn
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Ever had a WJ LTD? I like to say those are limited as in what works today. LOL Having the experiences that my mom has had with her 99 wj 4.7 ltd, I can't knowingly recommend one of them to anyone that doesn't enjoy a project. Granted a laredo or SE, or overland were not immune to the problems of WJ's. Want to buy hers? It's got only like 80k on it. Seriously, it is for sale after we have had so many things fixed under and out of warranty. I think Jeep re engineered the WJ as they built it, more so than any other vehicle I've seen. |
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78 martinique- refloored, reinforced, stringers re glassed, re engineered interior
GT40P heads Edelbrock Performer intake acme 4 blade http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/horkn/fish/nautique.jpg |
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67425ks
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harddock, the early broncos are 66-77.
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harddock
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If I were looking to restore, I think I would look into early (70-76) Broncos too. They can look sweet when done up right.
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Okie Boarder
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One thing I want to be sure of is I don't want to just go buy one ready to go. I'd like the boys to get the experience of working on a project together. I think they will learn something important from the project and have a vested interest in taking good care of it.
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Gary S
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I'm kinda partial to Cherokee's.We have had 2 '95's and my current '01.We also have a '98 Grand. My wife wanted the 1st one,thought it was crazy to have 4wd for the couple of times a year you'd use it.Man was I wrong. I really miss the 1st one,it saved our lifes. Got hit in the rear passengers door by a driver who ran a red light.Whole family was in it,the most damage was right where our son was sitting. It launched us into the air and we landed on the hood of another car on our drivers side. There was not a straight panel on the car anywhere,the only door that would open was the drivers side passengers door.Police said she had to be doing the speed limit at least,which was 50.We walked away without a scratch,not so with the others in the accident.
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kapla
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looks like it's nice...
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<a href="">1992 ski nautique
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Swatkinz
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Ya'll made me want to dig up some pics of my old 42. Enjoy!
P.S. After uploading, the resolution stinks. Don't know why |
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Steve
2011 Sport/Air 200 Excalibur 343 2017 Boatmate Tandem Axle Trailer Former CC owner (77, 80, 95, 88, all SNs) Former Malibu owner (07, 09) |
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BFNSport
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Yup you can swap a CJ front clip on a YJ.
$10,000 You can pic up a sweet TJ lift and a 4.0 and just wash it and drive it to get ice cream :-) |
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Okie Boarder
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Thanks for the info so fa all. I'd definitely like to get something that will be a good daily driver for the boys when they're in the last couple years of high school and be something fun for the family. We'll probably do somoe minor off roading. I definitely like the idea of something in the 80's or 90's. I'm partial to the round headlights and I would definitely want a hard and soft top. I like the idea of the straight 6 engine the most. One suggestion from another forum was to get a mid 90's model and swap the front section with new style or old CJ style to get the round headlight look but get some of the benefits of something a little newer than the old CJ's. Ideally, I'd like my budget to be $10K or less. I'd also like it to be cool looking...probably a minor lift and some nice sized tires with a nice wheel combo.
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FINS
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I know this is way off the original topic of retoring a Jeep with your kids, but have you seen the Icon products? They make reproduction vintage CJ's and FJ's that are SO cool looking and have every imaginable upgrade...including the price!! Last time I looked it was around $80,000 for a CJ!!
ICON 4X4 |
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Salty
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75Tique - my first Jeep was a 78 CJ5 and looked exactly like yours.
Wish I could have found an New Old Stock Black vinyl top like the one on your Jeep. No where to be found today ... So I went with the Best Top Tiger Top. Not as good as their Super Top, but more closely resembles the look of my old "Original" top then made by Whitco!!! |
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Salty
2018 GS22 with Z4 2008 Ski Nautique 206 w/Factory Tower, EX343 SOLD 1978 Southwind 18 w/GM305, upgraded 4 barrel intake & carb, all original - vinyl & carpet, etc. [URL=http://s328.photobucket.com |
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WakeSlayer
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Here's my 91 Mountain Crawler. I keep her out in North Idaho. My favorite vehicle I will ever own. Yeah yeah yeah, I know it has square headlights, but I don't care. She is awesome.
I am a Jeep lifer, and have had 5 Grand Cherokees of one model or another. Love them. |
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Mike N
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BFNSport
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Yup just the hood I started out with a Samurai, full bodied but like anything its never enough. Everyone called it a jeep it was a on going joke in our 4X4 group we had 2, 67 Broncos 2, Samurais and my buggy and to outsiders they were always called Jeeps lol |
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I had a 1978 cj7 Renegade with a v8 automatic. I bought it a week after graduating from high school. It was red with orange Renegade lettering on the hood. It had a tan colored soft top. I used to run it through all the rock bottom creeks around KY and used it as my daily driver at the same time.
It had plenty of go and I felt very safe at all times. I know someone in my town that has a early 90s. He's asking 2500. It's red but doesn't have the Renegade paint package. |
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1982 ski nautique
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67425ks
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BFNSport, your "jeep" looks to have a hint of samurai in it. looks like fun.
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harddock
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I have a 1997 ( first year of coil springs) 4 cylinder 5speed with air. It is no rocket ship but can cruise 70+ on the highway, is fair to good on gas, has a better ride than the 95 and older, has 110,000+ miles and including replacing the soft top and buying nicer wheels I have <$6,000 invested. I was fortunate that mine came from the south after living in Germany for awhile so it has no rust. I too dragged it behind a motorome and use it to transport kids to sports games as I can park it anywhere. It is cheaper than an ATV and one handy little unit. I never towed my boat but it will move, my docks, lift, and other yard chores with ease.
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horkn
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I had a 93 ZJ grand with the 4.0 and the unbreakable AW4 tranny.
It was literally one of the first ever grands to roll off the line in early 1992. The parents have their 99 4.7 wj grand, but they are selling it. I did a frame on restomod of a 86 cj7 with the 4.2 and the 5 speed. Decent rig, but with most jeeps, you fix them more than you drive them. My 93 ZJ was an exception to that rule as it was very dependable. |
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78 martinique- refloored, reinforced, stringers re glassed, re engineered interior
GT40P heads Edelbrock Performer intake acme 4 blade http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/horkn/fish/nautique.jpg |
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BFNSport
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My old "JEEP"
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