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Munday 
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Thats a Leroy?Replaced by merlin I believe.I'm in favor of hand lettering myself
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gun-driver
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Posted: April-13-2011 at 12:25pm |
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[QUOTE=TRBenj] Paul, "mid 70's" is pretty vague. QUOTE]
Yea that was vague because I don't remember what year exactly it is. I will be talking to him soon I'll find out the exact year. |
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: April-13-2011 at 11:34am |
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Steve,
Wecome to CCfan. Trust me, you have found the site that really has all the answers!! 
Tim above, mentioned doing some on site searching because all of your questions have been answered and at length but I'll give you some quick answers. Rot Doc - only a "half a@@ed" shade tree mechanic repair. It may get you one or two extra seasons of use out of the boat but the danger is it not providing enough support to keep the engine/prop shaft in alignment. Then, you may end up with a trans repair. How bad is the rot? Have you checked the alingment? Synthetic flooring - yes, composites have been used and there are complete threads on total stringer/floors using them. Marine ply - Not worth the money!! It's only used for major structural components on hulls. Exterior grade ply uses the same glue and is water proof. The difference between the two is marine has no inner ply voids. Back to the Rot Doc - Yes we do use his CPES on all wood going into a stringer/floor job as a prep and sealer for the epoxy resin used for glass layup. We need pictures!!!! |
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TRBenj
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Posted: April-13-2011 at 11:18am |
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Paul, "mid 70's" is pretty vague. For several years in the early 70's, CC was putting wood floors on top of the glass floor (which was the same glass over foam). The top floor was just ply that was screwed down- other than offering some impact resistance and an easy way to mount the seat frames, it was not structural. I have 2 Skiers with this style floor. I believe they stopped this practice in the mid 70's, as none of the later 70's boats seem to have it.
Rainbow, welcome to CCF. I would recommend searching for your answers, as there is a lot of info here- especially when it comes to foam and composites. For anything you dont find covered, feel free to start your own thread. |
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78 Rainbow Nautique
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Posted: April-13-2011 at 11:05am |
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I'm new to the forums but found this one because I had the same initial question, "What to do about the foam?" I'm restoring a 78 Ski Nautique that's had a partial floor job in the past (about 15 years ago). There is now some isolated stringer rot that needs repaired as well, so I have a few questions:
1. Has anyone seen the site www.rotdoctor.com ? Is this a good option for stringer repair? 2. Does anyone recommend any type of synthetic flooring material instead of marine plywood? AND... 3. What other options do I have besides replacing the foam? I couldn't believe how much water was in that stuff when I removed it! No wonder my boat sat so low in the water all those years. 
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gun-driver
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Posted: April-13-2011 at 12:31am |
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I have a friend that has a mid 70's ski and he said his floor was all wood also. I wonder if they had a base model with wood floors???
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Keuka
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Posted: April-12-2011 at 11:47pm |
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When I was in architecture school, all lettering was in caps and graded. I worked for a surveyor for a couple years before the days of cad and all the lettering there was done in caps also. I find myself writing in caps when writing something out by hand but I have never emailed in all caps. It makes it hard to read for the recipient.
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skicat2001
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Posted: April-11-2011 at 5:18pm |
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I hate it when people "SCREAM"!! On the computer
 
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: April-11-2011 at 3:50pm |
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Larry, I remember them well but, I also remeber not being allowed to use them in school. Then, afterwords, it was just as easy to letter by hand! Remember when they wouldn't even allow you to use a slide rule? |
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TRBenj
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Posted: April-11-2011 at 3:18pm |
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You'll need to get some pictures for us then- I dont understand what youre saying about the floor. Thanks for fixing your caps lock key!
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MSST30
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Posted: April-11-2011 at 3:08pm |
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No previous work on the floor. I am the sole owner of the boat.This is good for me since it will make less work for me. And yes, I am from the old school , 30+ years on the drawing board or CAD where everything is in caps. Thanks for the help.
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75 Tique
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Posted: April-11-2011 at 2:40pm |
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Oh really, Pete? 
How many of you (other than Pete) remember these bad boys? |
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skicat
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Posted: April-11-2011 at 2:18pm |
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Greg, That's a bad habit. Now, talking about people doing architectural drawing all day and having real bad habits, CQ emails me frequently and he is a real bad habit!
[/QUOTE] MIKE, I HAVE TO AGREE WITH TIM. SOUNDS LIKE SOME WORK HAS BEEN DONE ON YOUR FLOOR BEFORE. |
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: April-11-2011 at 1:49pm |
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Greg, That's a bad habit. Now, talking about people doing architectural drawing all day and having real bad habits, CQ emails me frequently but never in CAPS!
Yes, I came from the real old before CAD days when all lettering was by hand. Even then, we lettered normally! |
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skicat
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Posted: April-11-2011 at 1:43pm |
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My cap locks are on 99% of the time as I do architectural drawings all day. I find myself typing emails all the time in caps.
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: April-11-2011 at 1:13pm |
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I am a engineer and this is a new concept to me. A BS in mechanical engineering and a minor in electrical and never ran across the practice!  However, I will confirm that we are not go at spelling - Thankfully there is "spell ckeck".
Mike, We need pictures of the project!!! |
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TRBenj
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Posted: April-11-2011 at 1:02pm |
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FYI, the use of all capital letters is difficult to read, and is akin to "yelling". It would be appreciated if you turn your caps lock off when posting. Many here are engineers by trade as well, and somehow our caps lock keys still function properly.
If your floor consists entirely of plywood, then the boat has had a new floor put in somewhere along the line. My recommendation would be to read up on several of the good rebuilds on this site. That will give you a good idea of how these boats were constructed. |
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MSST30
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Posted: April-11-2011 at 12:51pm |
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NOTHING WRONG WITH THE CAP LOCK. I AM AN ENGINEER BY TRADE AND HAVE ALWAYS USED CAPS PREPARING DRAWINGS. JUST A HABIT.YOU AR COPRRECT, I HVE NOT REMOVED THE FLOOR BOARDING. I HAVE REMOVED ENOUGH OF THE FLOORING TO GET AT THE STRINGERS, WHICH ARE ROTTEN, THEY WERE COVERED WITH WOOD DECKING FROM THE REAR TO THE FOOT REST AT THE FRONT OF THE BOAT. WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING IS THE WOOD SHOULD BE IMITEDD TO THE AREA FROM THE FOOT REST TO THEBACK OF THE MOTOR BOX OPENING.
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: April-11-2011 at 11:51am |
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Mike,
Tim (above) types faster that I do! I concure with his comments that you want all the old wood out of the hull. Has this boat had a floor "job" done to it before?
BTW, there's something wrong with you caps lock! I noticed your name in your profile is all caps too.
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TRBenj
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Posted: April-11-2011 at 11:42am |
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It sounds as though you have yet to disassemble your floor- it is not built how you think it is. You will find that the only wood in your floor is between the motor and battery box where the seats bolt down. The rest is glass directly over foam. All wood you find should probably be replaced... dont forget about the wood in the transom either.
The foam vs. no foam debate is a hotly contested one here. I would recommend you do some searching on here and decide for yourself which method youre most comfortable with. Foam provides buoyancy and some structural support, but will eventually trap water. If you dont replace the foam, then some additional structural members should be added between the hull and floor to replace the rigidity that the foam provided. |
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MSST30
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Posted: April-11-2011 at 11:23am |
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GENTLMEN
I AM REPLACING THE STRINGERS IN MY 1975 SKI NAUTIQUE. WHILE DOING SO I WILL BE REPLACING THE FLOOR BOARDS. UPON REMOVING FLOORBOARDS AND OLD FOAM, IS IT RECOMMENDED THAT NEW FOAM BE INSTALLED? ALSO, I AM PLANNING ON CUTTING THE OLD BOARDING TO AROUND AN INCH FROM THE INNER SIDE OF THE HULL. DO I NEED TO BUTT THE NEW BOARDS DIRECTLY TO THE LEFT OVER BOARD OR REMOVE THE WOOD AND SLIDE THE NEW BOARDING INTO THE GROOVE AND THEN FIBERGLASS THE TO THE HULL? |
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