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75 Tique
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Many many years ago I was out skiing and there were a couple of rookies along for the ride. When it was my turn I opened up the ski locker and pulled out my ski. The two commented....Oh he's getting out the old Billy Baroo. "Oh Billy, Billy, Billy, Billy, Come on Billy" |
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IAughtNaut
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IntelSoftApps
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There is actually a section in the forums for it and a page on the site with slideshows.lol
Anyways, those reunions look great! There should be one in Eastern Washington along the Columbia river. Tons and Tons of smooth water, perfect for skiing all day long. Also many ski courses hidden in shallow lagoons were only the brave go. (We have a great view of the course in front of us. It is in a shallow area to one side of the lake. One side of it is the shoreline and the other is 8" deep sand bar. We lLove watching stupid people drive there boats up on to it. The course itself is only 4.5' to 10'. Pretty tight and scary) Anyways, it would be a blast to have a reunion there. Many lakes to choose from! |
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Hollywood
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There are slideshows that have pictures from the whole weekend. You should watch Caddyshack.
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IntelSoftApps
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What goes on at the reunions?
Hangout, skiing, boating... |
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IAughtNaut
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There's an entire forum page dedicated to reunions, you'll see it listed under General Discussion. There are several in different locations around the country, the next one is in 2 weeks at White Lake NC. That will be my first, but I'm told the one in July in Green Lake WI is the biggie. Since there's a little more time to plan before then, you may want to look into making that trip.
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IntelSoftApps
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Ok, now I get it.
I agree, there are many people on this sight that are very helpful and knowledgeable. I appreciate all of the help you all give! By the way, were is the reunion? I have only heard about it... |
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harddock
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Derek, Once the Big Bertha golf reference was made, Kevin (Hollywood) chimed in about the new club he got. Going with my just cause you buy what the pros buy doesn't make you a pro theme I was trying to guide you with I couldn't resist having a little joke with Hollywood. You find in time as you get to know people here you can make some lighthearted comments and folks get a chuckle. As long as it is not vulgar and not in vain everyone enjoys some humor.
If you ever get a chance to attend on of the CCF reunions you too will meet some of the greatest people on the planet and come to be friends with them. They are accomidating, willing to help a bud out in an instant, knowledgable, generous, party animals, etc. etc. |
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IntelSoftApps
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What? Umm... |
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harddock
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Now he's gonna think he is HollyTIGERWood!! Cinderella story - here we go, he's lining up on the T, here's the swing and oooooooooooohhhh he still slices left. |
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Mark Mel
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Look to try a Radar Senate or Senate-C.
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IntelSoftApps
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Yes.but alot of the new skis today, are not just for a pro skier. Alot of theme have a bit if range of performance and ability.
Along time ago a good skier usually needed a good ski. This sort of has changed with the newer ones... |
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Hollywood
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I just got a mint Ti Bubble 2 that I'm stoked to swing.
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C-Bass
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I see your point Joel. But that Big Birtha didn't/won't correct my terrible slice
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harddock
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Top of the line skis are great if your a top of the line skier. Too often people buy the product the pro uses only to be dissapointed in the performance. What works for Wade Cox or Andy Mapple may not better your ride. Skiing on a very aggressive ski is a treat if your a very aggressive skier. You might be happier with an intermediate ski even if it means buying one or two more before you break any records. Like mentioned above techniques and equipment have changed. If your technique is old school and your ski is the new high tech it may not help you. I'd work with a coach (more so than a store)who can see your ability and guide you towards a ski that will work for best for you.
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IntelSoftApps
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Thanks for the info! It really helps I am going to demo a few skis and see what i like and feels best to me. Has anyone heard any reviews or actually skied on the Connelly Prophecy 2009? |
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M3Fan
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To the "90% form" people- yes, technique is important and money spent on lessons or video lessons is very, very good money spent. I have a whole site dedicated to this.
However. Ski technology has come up LEAPS AND BOUNDS over the past 10 years. It's like golf and drivers- once that Big Bertha came out in 1996 or so, everything changed. Everyone skiing on a stick over 5 years old owes it to themselves to try something newer. I'm skiing better than ever and I attribute 90% of that to my ski, a 2009 D3 CustomX that I purchased brand new in 09. When I come out of the ball, the ski finishes extremely hard and the potential for cross-course acceleration feels limitless. I'm not great at skiing the course but I can honestly say the ski made a big difference. Before that I had upgraded from my 02 CDX to a brand new Connelly F1X. A pro-level shortline ski (in 02) to a modern, somewhat wideride intermediate ski. Way faster, way more responsive. I took a set on my old CDX (last year?) with Hollywood who has permanently borrowed it and it felt like a 2X4. As far as brands- you can't go wrong. Most everyone makes a top-level ski that is great. I hear great things about the A1, the A2, the Strada, and the Z7. What I personally like about D3 is ALL they make is top-level, handmade skis. Nothing else. I have to appreciate a company who takes a niche of a niche like that. The rules seem to be changing as far as top level ski being for a top level skier- I've heard from MANY sources that the Strada is great for everyone. Never tried it, though. Even with stock settings, it's AMAZING how different skis from different mfgrs feels. I did a ski test in 07 with 3 intermediate skis and I could not believe how different they felt. Definitely try what you can and determine for yourself what will meet your needs. |
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IntelSoftApps
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Thats totally true! I always try to work on my form to make it better. I actually ski with people out on the course who are very good at skiing. Many of them used to or still do tournaments. So it is almost like a ski school for free. lol But the whole reason i originally asked this is because i am growing...quite quickly! And i probably will need a longer ski soon... Does any one have recommendations or links to sites that i can look at as a reference for the binding setups/ fin/ placements? Any links might be useful. I already know of a few... |
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75 Tique
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Folks around here that know me know that I am never in a big hurry to spend money. That goes hand in hand with my philosophy that I don't need equipment that's better than I am. I am about where Derek is. On a good day, when the planets are aligned just right, I can make it through the course 15 off about 28 mph, on a really good day maybe even a titch faster. So as long as that is where I am, I am sure my 25 year old OBrien competitor is fine. When I start struggling to get that extra ball at 34 mph and 22-28 off, then I might worry about a new ski. I do appreciate that having the right equipment helps and in fact, when the opportunity arises, I like to try more aggressive skis to see if they help me, but for now, I'm all set. It cracks me up when someone decides to take up a sport, water skiing is just an example, and they go out and buy that $1200 ski figuring it will make them a great skier. Like you said Craig, 90% form.
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C-Bass
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Great comments Larry. Here is how I look at it, from a purely recreational skier. My skiing ability could probably be attributed to:
5% - Ski/binding setup 2% - Boat 3% - Water conditions 90% - Form Your form is by far the most important thing. I say save the money on a new ski and buy gas for the boat, keep using the Concept, and work on your form. Or use the money to go to a ski school. I won't buy a new ski until mine breaks or I get done with a set and say with 100% certainty ..."Wow, my form was great, but that ski really is holding me back." |
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emccallum
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That is what I tried to suggest. |
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IntelSoftApps
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That's what I've heard. Alot of the skis are almost highly tuneable to be the same
but, I need a new ski anyways. I keep out growing all of my gear... |
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IntelSoftApps
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That's what I've heard. Alot of the skis are almost highly tuneable to be the same
but, I need a new ski anyways. I keep out growing all of my gear... |
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I've skied on a Goode with Reflex bindings for the past eight years. I like it a lot but agree with Larry. Keep in mind most of the skis now a days are highly tunable and can be adjusted to most any skiing style.
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IntelSoftApps
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Exactly. I am not going to go buy a ski just because someone says they like it, but I defi will tale it into consideration and demo or try it put with my bindings. All I am asking is what other people who usually have been skiing for sometime what ski they think is good. And you are right, when you reach a certain price all of the skis are considered good. It is just wetter you like the feel/ride of the ski... |
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mdvalant
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From what I see...it appears that the others are simply stating which skis they have heard/given good reviews on and are actually pushing Derek to actually try some out.
He came here asking for what we thought. The guys on CCFAN are sure as heck going to give him that! |
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75 Tique
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Not being any kind of authority on skis, I have a question for the folks contributing to this thread. This question comes up a lot...what is a good ski, or what ski should I get. Isnt it a hugely individual thing? Once you get over a certain price, I am guessing they are all good skis. Different shape, edges, rocker, flex....lots of variables I guess. It just comes down to what fits/suits you, no? So how can I recommend a ski to someone. I may like it, but it could be wrong for him. And although I applaud Derek for making it through the course at 15 off at age 15, I don't think at that stage he needs a $1200 or $800 ski. I'm not being critical of anyone's response here. In other words, the best ski may not be the beat ski. It just seems it would be hard to recommend a ski to someone. I can see the temptation. A billion years ago I bought one of the first HO Mach 1s. I thought it was amazing, like riding a rail. But that was just for me. Others may have preferred a Jobe, which I found very squirrely. My thinking is the only way to go is to try them out.
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IntelSoftApps
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Ya.I'm near Seattle. We have a place on both sides of the state. I am going to demo the HO A-1 this week. Has any one heard anything good about the D3? Pros, or cons |
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Hollywood
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How fast? I'd say you have plenty of room to progress with the Concept. |
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emccallum
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Derek, I noticed you are in Washington state. If you are near Seattle, you should check out Wiley's. I have dealt with them for many years, they are very nice, and typically have some blems available. Heck, they may even have some demos for you to try.
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