Property Lines/Neighbors

If you have a printed survey map, it will have everything marked and will have a legend of what is in the ground (pipe, pin, nail, etc). Survey map should be filed. In NY you can obtain copies from the real property office at the county clerks office. If you are doing investigative research, you can also get you neighbor's map. It's all public information. When I used to survey, if there was not already a corner marker, we set new ones. What is visible is the little plastic cap with the surveyors name. What you can't see is the 3' length of 1/2" rebar that is driven into the ground. Lake property we always marked at the high water point.

David

Yes, it will only be the begining. My advice is dont let it consume you. There is 'that guy' on every lake.

Speaking of Cams. Ours has a guy who puts up trail cams to "catch" the neighbors using an old county road runs along his property down to the lake front. Families have used this road since the lake was made. He is just one of those guys where the best part of him is flushed every morning.

For sh*ts and giggles ever few weeks, my brother and I go over and remove the flash cards from the cameras. We take them home and load them up with the internets most god awful and worst REMOVEography. Then we replace them.

He now has cameras watching his cameras now. We get those too.

I cannot even imaging the conversation he has with the police showing them his "evidence" that someone keeps messed with his cameras.

If they have metal tube like spikes, driven into the ground?

THEN get a metal detector... I have had the same promlem with my NAB.

He Pulled all the wood markers up after I had it done,,That is only the start of my problems with this FOOL!

Adverse posession probably varies from state to state, but in Maine, if you allow someone to use your property, it can't be taken by adverse possesion. They have to use it against your will.

Dreaming wrote: You'd better re-think that survey now....   In realestate law, there is such a thing as a hostile take over... if your neighbor improves on your land and you don't do anything about it, he will own it after a certain period of time.    It's called "Adverse Posession". also, if the contractor uses your property as an easment, if you don't request that the easment be on your neighbor's property, the easment can become permanent also.     Yikes... I guess the saying stands that good fences make good neighbors.

This is good advice.

My grandma just went through a property line issue with her loud-mouth neighbor at her property in Northern Wisconsin. Waterfront property is highly expensive and worth protecting. You NEVER want to give up an INCH of it. Here is what my grandma was faced with:



As you can see (kinda) the two fence posts represent the property line. If you follow that line into the water, you can see that a large portion of their pier is on my grandma's frontage (including the entire thing at the end). Then, they would park their pontoon boat next to the pier...so the entire pontoon was on her frontage.

Needless to say this didn't fly with her. She first asked them to move it, to which they swore at her and basically told her to buzz off. So, she had that line surveyed. To verify the location of one lot marker they had to find two other lot markers. This cost over $800.00. BUT, once it was done, we had legal proof that they were violating the lot line...and had sufficient right to do this:



It was a lot of money...but Granny is very happy she had the survey done...because now there is a legal record that they are in violation of her lot line...

And sorry for the huge pics...

I am for the survey. Bad neighbors are still bad neighbors even behind a good fence. I once paid 5 or 6 kids to pick goat heads and gave them each a bucket. I racked them on some old window screens and dried them. The next spring I put them in a broadcast spreader and applied to neighbors river rock front yard that they drove thru my drive and yard to install.

I think I got about 90% germination!

Cya Bob

Dreaming wrote: You'd better re-think that survey now....   In realestate law, there is such a thing as a hostile take over... if your neighbor improves on your land and you don't do anything about it, he will own it after a certain period of time.    It's called "Adverse Posession". also, if the contractor uses your property as an easment, if you don't request that the easment be on your neighbor's property, the easment can become permanent also.     Yikes... I guess the saying stands that good fences make good neighbors.

In Michigan, it takes 15 years of maintaining a property to claim Adverse Possession. And even after that, it is very difficult to uphold.

nautique frk wrote: I am a firm beliver in fences !! Keep the idiots out and let them KNOW where your property is !

This is true except when your neighbor puts a fence up on your property!!!

you might also check in with your title company ( if you had title insurance) to see what the legal description of your property is and when it was surveyed last.   you might be able to reengage the original surveyor much cheaper than getting a new survey.   Your local realtor might have some ideas for you also.

well just when I thought things were going good my neighbor on the other side decided to put in some retaining walls, they went on vacation. Their contractor has been driving his bobcat and dumping his piles of sand on our property ! I'm lost for words. Where did respect go? its seems nobody cares any more?

I was going to pull the trigger on a surveyor? but the wife said to spend the money elsewhere so I'm going to put the money into my boat instead
I'm going to get more creative and put it on their shoulders to pay for a survey   

My philosophy has always been      Love they neighbor but don't get caught   

I like marks idea the roundup .... a good way to be rid of waste oil too..

My good friend in North Idaho has a saying. "Know your neighbor's name"

Out there people joke about just moving the stakes a few feet a year til you get what you want. I have 25 acres in the mountains and a neighbor on each side that wants to squeeze me a little more in on each side. Not maliciously really, but there has not been a legit survey done in the area in 50+ years. I do not really bitch cause I am not there often and we all agree in general where the lines are.
FWIW, it would cost me about $15k to do a survey on my lot, and several would get markers in the process. Just not worth it in that particular situation.

gun-driver wrote: Took care of the cat’s one at a time with the .22. Neighbor asked me if I had seen any of the cats they were disappearing

"Lead Poisoning"

Dave D. wrote: Sounds like it may be time to "out crazy" the crazy neighbor. I understand wanting to keep the peace though. About 10 years ago I was having trouble with a neighbor who was feeding about 20 feral cats. Her cats started spraying my vehicles and completely ruined one of my vintage convertibles by spraying down the cowl into the vent system. I mentioned it to a crazy friend of mine and told him I could handle the problem, diplomatically, of course. The following Friday afternoon, I was confronting the neighbor about the cat problem when my knucklehead friend drives up and hollers over to us "hey Dave, kill those cats yet?" She nearly fainted. I told her he was only joking. She promised that the cats would not be a problem in the future. She rounded them up, kept them inside, and I never saw them again.

I would have made them into vintage tennis rackets !!!