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juniorwoody ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: August-09-2011 Location: Oak Hill, Fl Status: Offline Points: 937 |
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I tried laying out at a bias to get the extra length needed to have only one scarf and the grain was too far off plane so I have decided to keep with the two scarf joints. They get better as I go. If all goes well it won't end up a painted boat
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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I too have a feeling ply sheet size was considered. On the Atom, they were able to skin both hull sides with the 4 foot width. They were frugal back then! |
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juniorwoody ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: August-09-2011 Location: Oak Hill, Fl Status: Offline Points: 937 |
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The decking is salvageable Pete. I have been fitting to it in the sides and that has been a PITA itself. As I measure the old stuff that came off the sides the first sheet including the scarph was 97 followed by the second sheet which was 96 including the scarph. The lofting must have considered the available materials and looks like they worked hard to get advantage to the sheet length.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Jack,
Did you scarf the decking which would then shorten the 8 foot sheets a few inches? My Atom deck was butt joined (hull sides and bottom scarfed) so I had plenty of ply length. But, the Jr. is also 1 foot longer so I can see where you could end up short. Yes, I would skew the sheets slightly to get the needed length and have only one joint. With a slight skew, no one will be able to tell the slight difference in grain direction. |
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juniorwoody ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: August-09-2011 Location: Oak Hill, Fl Status: Offline Points: 937 |
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Coming down the home stretch on fitting and installing the hull material. Just interested if anyone has reskinned one of these hulls. When I laid out the first of the gunnel stock I found that the first sheet going back from the bow is over 8 ft long. More like 97in. I decided to make a second joint which ended up about 20 in in from the transome. as I lay out the other side it occured to me that maybe I could get 97in out of the front piece by cutting it out of the sheet at a bias. not sure this will get me there but will tell in due time. this would be preferable to the second joint.
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juniorwoody ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: August-09-2011 Location: Oak Hill, Fl Status: Offline Points: 937 |
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I remember your tip on the filler application and have used it. Works very well and I do have my work cut out filling and sanding holes for sure.
I noticed the famowood comes in color selection. Guess I should match the mahogany and find a supplier with a selection. Will get the one with solvent as you advise. |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Yes, you can but if the fill is rough and needs to be sanded, the wood flower is just easier to sand. You still have the integrity and water proofing of the epoxy with the flower. . |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Jack,
When you get to the Famowood fills I have a tip. I found out the hard way. Make a "mask" out of thin sheet metal shim stock. Punch a hole in it the same dia. of the bung hole and use it when you fill the hole with the filler. If you don't, the Famowood will get into the surrounding open grain of the wood and then when you go to the filler stain stage, the Famowood will show up around the fill. Also, when you shop for the Famowood, use the solvent type. |
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juniorwoody ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: August-09-2011 Location: Oak Hill, Fl Status: Offline Points: 937 |
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Could I not thicken the epoxie with cabosil for the bottom then Pete? Can get some wood flour no problem also.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Jack,
Famowood for the bright work and epoxy filled with a sandable wood flower filler on the bottom painted ply. |
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juniorwoody ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: August-09-2011 Location: Oak Hill, Fl Status: Offline Points: 937 |
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I have bonded the panels on the bottom. Sides to come soon. Time to start thinking about a filler for the screw holes. Was about to start cutting plugs till I remembered taking putty out of all the holes originally. I need a stainable filler for above the water line and perhaps a different filler for below. Seems the below waterline aren't stainable. I don't think Correct Craft concerned itself with such matters but with modern materials I thought I'd try to get it right. Any input would appreciated.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Jack,
Looking great. Keep the pictures coming. |
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SNobsessed ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: October-21-2007 Location: IA Status: Offline Points: 7102 |
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Looking fwd to seeing it floating someday.
Now we need to get Pete to restart his launch project! |
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juniorwoody ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: August-09-2011 Location: Oak Hill, Fl Status: Offline Points: 937 |
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It has been a good long while on this boat. Life has gotten in the way but I am determined to follow through on the project. Truth be known it is my favorite of the boats we own. After a few neglectful summer's I have brought the unfinished hull to FL to complete it. That is where I spend my time. Have it set up in my carport and good working condition. Just glued up the first of the scarph joints I made some time ago. Wish to post pictures but since photobucket pulled the fast one I have not got that figured out. Could use a little help.
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juniorwoody ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: August-09-2011 Location: Oak Hill, Fl Status: Offline Points: 937 |
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It has been three years in progress this coming month. Much of it part time and seasonal. Still there will be no floating this year but I venture a guess next summer. A long trip and a great education which we can never get enough of it is said. The hull is finally going together and I see on our CCFan site today a boat I have been watching of similar vintage. I think ours may be the oldest Jr around? Anyways the 1954 tagged on the for sale CL stuff has been reduced to $3500.00. It has a similar color scheme to ours but no splash rails. Sad that these old CC boats fetch such little value although it is no surprise to me. A labor of love to be sure. I am in hopes that the Starflite has some better long term value but wouldn't bet on it. ![]() ![]() Time to get her done and move on |
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juniorwoody ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: August-09-2011 Location: Oak Hill, Fl Status: Offline Points: 937 |
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I have the rest of this month and all of August to get as much done to this boat as I can for the season. Pushing on toward a flip someday.
First sheet of hull material in the fit. Need to hone in my scarph joint skills soon... ![]() Laid out the 3in. slash or scarph and removed the material with the hand plane. Numerous sharpenings with the stone the only option. ![]() Crisp and clean cut ![]() ...and the dry fit ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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juniorwoody ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: August-09-2011 Location: Oak Hill, Fl Status: Offline Points: 937 |
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A few more progress pictures
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uk1979 ![]() Platinum Member ![]() Joined: June-13-2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1426 |
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Nice grain on the mahogany transom ply Jack ... with a good stain that will pop... great to meet you and Burton at SJRR rebuilding the boats together (mostly)will be golden times.
I also like to make joints straight off a fine saw blade...when gluing for the best bond. |
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juniorwoody ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: August-09-2011 Location: Oak Hill, Fl Status: Offline Points: 937 |
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this earlier post shows the sub ply |
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juniorwoody ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: August-09-2011 Location: Oak Hill, Fl Status: Offline Points: 937 |
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Pete, this one had 1/4 fir ply under 1/4 mahogany. here you see the final layer installed. it does make for a nice substantial assembly.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Jack,
I didn't mention my transom ply. It's double 1/4. I guess CC thought it would be easier to bend. |
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juniorwoody ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: August-09-2011 Location: Oak Hill, Fl Status: Offline Points: 937 |
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Ok, this is serious. First ply fit and ready to go on today....
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juniorwoody ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: August-09-2011 Location: Oak Hill, Fl Status: Offline Points: 937 |
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Really all he does is guard the boat in my absence Roger. Glue got him into the situation he is in. [/QUOTE] Sniffing it Jack? ![]() ....can't you tell by the look in his eyes Gary ![]() |
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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Really all he does is guard the boat in my absence Roger. Glue got him into the situation he is in. [/QUOTE] Sniffing it Jack? ![]() |
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juniorwoody ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: August-09-2011 Location: Oak Hill, Fl Status: Offline Points: 937 |
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This boat has 3/8 decking and it is workable so it stays. It may have been replaced since it is bonded down with resourcinol(sp) and I don't think CC did that. The job was well done and they took pains to route the detail properly so I have opted to work around it. There is some chaffing at the edges I need to deal with when the time comes. As for the hull material Pete, I bought sequence matched ply sheets, so, they should stain alright on the sides for a match. Will be making my saw ready to do the scarf joints in the coming week. |
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juniorwoody ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: August-09-2011 Location: Oak Hill, Fl Status: Offline Points: 937 |
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Really all he does is guard the boat in my absence Roger. Glue got him into the situation he is in. Was a pleasure getting to know you folks at SJRR. |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Jack,
Yes, 3/8 on the hull and 1/4 on the deck doubled up at the forward edge of the cockpits. I was able to reuse the hull ply since it's painted. The deck took 4 sheets. I of course didn't ask the the suppler to color match the deck ply so it was quite a nightmare with bleaching to get them to a point where they would take a stain equally!! |
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uk1979 ![]() Platinum Member ![]() Joined: June-13-2007 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1426 |
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Keep on it Jack...not so sure your helper wood have much to say ....don't let him use the glue.
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