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hoping for Polyone to succeed is like Cheney hoping for war with Haliburton, diabolical but very true

hard to believe Lincoln was a righty, but then again.....

David, banks and hollywood lol

persona? maybe the same as election propaganda?

Oh boy, here we go with the Bush/Cheney bashing You libs just won't leave them alone.

So Eric, if your Jewish friends don't invest in stocks/bonds, other than gold, where do they invest? Over the very long haul, gold has not been a great investment, but, admittedly, its been on a tear for the past few years. Hey, what about real estate?? Nah, that bubble burst too.

Its my feeling that over the very long haul, the stocks and bonds are the place to be. And, yes, it hurts like h*ll when the market tanks like it has been, but, it also feels eurphoric during the bull runs. However, on average, over the past 5-10 years or so, stocks on average have only returned around 5% annually. Plus, its liquid as well.

I like to think of the market as a proxy for the US economy. When Obama is in power, I am getting a discount on my purchases. When a Republican gets into office and hopefully cuts all the regulations that are hampering things, the economy will soar and so will the stock market.   

we had a local investor here in town clip the Fazio family for 18 million, I dont understand how one could swipe a check that large and trust a guy, im afraid to let loose of 18 bucks, as you said the risk outways 10 fold nowadys, lok at that solar panel company that Obama dumped 550 million of taxpayers money into, good intent on his part, future of economic growth and they went belly up, someone walked away with a pocket full of cash

The market is a tricky thing for sure. There is corruption in the market.....HELLO Bernie Madoff!!! He screwed lots of very intelligent people. Also, some people do get lucky, and hitch their wagon to a meteoric stock, and get wealthy. Those individuals are either extremely lucky, or have true insider knowledge of what is happening at a company.

However, I am neither lucky, or have no knowledge of what is going to happen to a company that may cause its share to sky-rocket. Thats why I am more of a diversified index player. I figure the market already knows what is happening, and that information is baked into a stocks price long before I would ever be able to act on it.

Take Netflix for example. If you would have bought a few years ago, it would have been a fantastic ride on the way up. However, since July, its price has been cut in half.

I am not saying its going to happen, but, some of the air appears to be coming out of gold now too. So, I just play the averages and stay at it over the long haul.

It seems like if gold were a great LONG term investment, companies like Vanguard and Fidelity would add gold as a percentage of thier retirement offerings. But, I sure wish I would have bought it at $300 and sold at $1800. But, I missed that one.

If anybody knows where the next great investment is, please give me a call

550k aint to bad to retire on btw

eric lavine wrote: David I think if we all agree to dis-agree, that any form of the government is fcd up, no matter who pulls the curtain string.

I think we all know who is better to drive the car to this country than the other f' weirdo's!

Yea ask my dad and mom about all the money they have lost since 08. I did not realize my mother could get so angry at Obama..

David I think if we all agree to dis-agree, that any form of the government is fcd up, no matter who pulls the curtain string.

So how do you guys deal with the market in these times? I believe it is tough to time it, and constantly buy/sell/buy/sell.

I just do the Vanguard Target Retirement thing, and let it ride. It ends up being a mixed balance of stocks and bonds. More towards bonds as you get closer to retirement.

When we get a new President, I think the market will soar. I also FIRMLY believe the market tanked in October 2008 when it was apparent Dear Leader Obama was going to be elected. They say the market looks our 6-12 months, and anticipates what is coming. He is still working his "magic" on it too.

you may need minus 400 from globing warming lol, every year for the past 20 years i put my heat on the same very day which is september 22nd, not a day before not a day earlier...only cause the weather dictates that

pulling the kids college funds and buying gold and silver, by the way it looks like they might be going to community college. rotton bastards stole another few grand....create fear and pulling back doesnt help things, im going to ring a finacial advisors neck in the near future. he needs some Eric 101. lol
75, as bad as 08, quit cherry picking

Dow is down 400 Obamas today after 280-something yesterday. Nice.