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    Posted: October-24-2011 at 1:15pm
Yes, but tying the tubes makes it safer to work on your wood. Oh wait ... wrong forum.
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too funny Peter..........Chummin maybe?
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Originally posted by OverMyHead OverMyHead wrote:

The proper place to attach two tubes is the tow point on the back.....of a Bayliner!




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The proper place to attach two tubes is the tow point on the back.....of a Bayliner!
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Originally posted by jjcorrectcraftfan jjcorrectcraftfan wrote:

i was wondering if the rope tie up on the stern could pull tubes. I am hoping to be able to pull 2 tubes if possible and maybe ski off it. I've saw people do it but i really want to make sure you can before id try it


Originally posted by OverMyHead OverMyHead wrote:

I believe the "rope tie up" is the lifting ring, it is designed for vertical loads only (Lifting)and is not a good tow point, keep an eye out for the right vintage pylon and add it during your restore. I cant wait to see what Pete has to say about two tubes behind that boat.


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I'm getting the impression that you are "toying" with us. Ether that or you have not taken the suggestion of doing some searching and reading.

Just in case, Dave is correct - that "Rope tie up" is the lifting ring and absolutely vertical loads only!

I think you had better concentrate on the restoration and not pulling tubes!   


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Originally posted by boat dr boat dr wrote:

Why spend more on a preservation than the boat is worth, then leave it on the trailer to be shown off like a "trophy wife".


Hummmmmmm, I need to get one of those "Tropy wife's" Are they good with working on wood!
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Keep your eye on ebay and CCF. Parts come up occationally. A pair of decent clamshell vents sold a couple weeks ago.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160657160604&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME%3AB%3AONA%3AMOTORS%3A1123&vxp=mtr
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Originally posted by ultrarunner ultrarunner wrote:

JJ, if you haven't done so already, I'd canvass that barn really good, just to be sure you're not leaving any parts behind. Having grabbed a few barn-finds myself over the years...mostly cars and planes, I have usually found a few pieces sitting on the floor, in the rafters, ect...that belonged to my find.

Good luck with the resto, and we all look forward to following your progress.

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This is my barn that i put it in so i havent moved any parts. I looked at the guys house i got it from but i didnt see any either. I have a ski pylon on ebay but never the clam vents or correct craft name plate. Any ideas were i could get correct craft parts?
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JJ, if you haven't done so already, I'd canvass that barn really good, just to be sure you're not leaving any parts behind. Having grabbed a few barn-finds myself over the years...mostly cars and planes, I have usually found a few pieces sitting on the floor, in the rafters, ect...that belonged to my find.

Good luck with the resto, and we all look forward to following your progress.

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I believe the "rope tie up" is the lifting ring, it is designed for vertical loads only (Lifting)and is not a good tow point, keep an eye out for the right vintage pylon and add it during your restore. I cant wait to see what Pete has to say about two tubes behind that boat.
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i was wondering if the rope tie up on the stern could pull tubes. I am hoping to be able to pull 2 tubes if possible and maybe ski off it. I've saw people do it but i really want to make sure you can before id try it
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Originally posted by jjcorrectcraftfan jjcorrectcraftfan wrote:

How long can you leave these boats in the water. We go up to a camp in Michigan for a week. The boat would be in the water for 6 days. Can you leave them in the water that long or not.

6 days would be the max. The topside paint used on the bottom should be fine even though it's not a "below the waterline paint" I suggest Pettit Easypoxy.
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Originally posted by jjcorrectcraftfan jjcorrectcraftfan wrote:

Also did these boats have swim platforms?


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Spend some time exploring the site. The reference section as well as the diaries are wonderful tools. In the ref section, you'll find catalogs and price sheets that will list the details.


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How long can you leave these boats in the water. We go up to a camp in Michigan for a week. The boat would be in the water for 6 days. Can you leave them in the water that long or not. Also did these boats have swim platforms?

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Pete, cut the guy a little slack!   He will learn one way or the other, the job he is about to undertake will educate him more than any reading he can do about this "simple task".I can only speak for my "education into wooden boats" .I too have a small amount of knowledge since my purchase and "resto" of 4 wood CC's. I chose to use info from a number of sources, both novice and old timers,to do the best job I could.The bottom line of all this "resore back better than the factory" to me is a poison pill.Why have a boat that you are afraid to use?Why spend more on a preservation than the boat is worth, then leave it on the trailer to be shown off like a "trophy wife". Allow him to make the same mistakes the rest of us have made, some times an education can be very expensive, Almost as much as following blindly with misinformation that came from the "PRO's"....Let him ask the questions.............
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Originally posted by jjcorrectcraftfan jjcorrectcraftfan wrote:

I think the hull is still in good shape so i hopefully wont have to pull that big v8 out.

JJ,
Don't get your hopes up. You have had three seasoned wood CC veterans warn you about the bedding compound. We haven't even told you about the stem yet!

You do need to spend some more time reading some of the great threads here.

Keep us posted.


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Thanks for the help so far. Im sure ill need much more. I hope to start working on the boat in 2 weeks and be done by July of 2012. I think the hull is still in good shape so i hopefully wont have to pull that big v8 out.
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Originally posted by jjcorrectcraftfan jjcorrectcraftfan wrote:

I was looking just behind the front seat and there is no hole for a ski pole. Did all of these come with ski poles or not. Will this be something i have to build in when i tear it apart?

JJ,
Spend some time exploring the site. The reference section as well as the diaries are wonderful tools. In the ref section, you'll find catalogs and price sheets that will list the details.

The pylon was an option! Yes, you'll need to fabricate a period correct pylon and build it in with your restoration.


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I was looking just behind the front seat and there is no hole for a ski pole. Did all of these come with ski poles or not. Will this be something i have to build in when i tear it apart?
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JJ,

This thread might be a good reference for you. His photo links are still active so you can get a good look at what you've got ahead of you.

Unfortunately all these old Correct crafts suffer the same issues. Dried bedding compound is a given and the boat will need to be dismantled and reassembled to be water tight. What you find beyond that is the typical things, rotted or broken knee braces, broken or rotted frame members and the worst to deal with is a delaminated or rotted stem. All are repairable and several here including myself have first hand knowledge and will be glad to help.

All you can do at this point is start taking it apart, survey the condition of the framework and decide if you want to put the time and money into it.
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Greetings JJ, Glad to see another going through the trials and tribulations of rebuilding, refurbishing and or refinishing another old Correct Craft. My son and I started working on a 1950 Jr Utility just this summer. Will be back at it as soon as I can pacify the most important family member with the installation of a new kitchen. You will find my thread a few pages back if interested. A word of caution, bring your thick skin to this meeting place where you will find all the information to complete your project. The members are straight forward and most often right, even if they are the bearers of bad news. As soon as you adjust your thinking to the reality that you will be removing the hull plywood, repairing any keel, stem or frame rot and reinstalling the skin with the 5200 system, you will be able to go with the flow in an orderly fashion. Resist the temptation to do any less.

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so will i just want to completely redo the transom or should i get more picture tomorrow so you guys can get a better look at the boat.
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JJ, If you could fill out your profile with at least a first name, we tend prefer them to screen names. This site and especially Pete are great sources for your project ahead. Make sure you ask first, Listen to the good advice, and make a good plan before you proceed. It will save you time, money and headaches.
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by jjcorrectcraftfan jjcorrectcraftfan wrote:

the transom below the water is fine. Its the transom above water that needs repaired.

You need to investigate deeper. You are only looking at the surface and not the inside frames. Trust me, you have problems! The popped filler over the tops of the screws is a great indicator.

You evidently do not have any woodworking boat building experiencing! We are here to help you since you will need it!



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Originally posted by jjcorrectcraftfan jjcorrectcraftfan wrote:

the transom below the water is fine. Its the transom above water that needs repaired.

You need to investigate deeper. You are only looking at the surface and not the inside frames. Trust me, you have problems! The popped filler over the tops of the screws is a great indicator.

You evidently do not have any woodworking boat building experiencing! We are here to help you since you will need it!


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Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

Pete, you are correct about the other models, but our Atom did have the tubes. It didn't have side panels though and this one looks like it does, although who know if they are original or not? That boat looks much better than ours which needed all new skins, however, I was surprised at how good the condition that the framing was in once we tore it apart.

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I have a feeling the side panels were on the deluxe hull.


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the transom below the water is fine. Its the transom above water that needs repaired.
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Pete, you are correct about the other models, but our Atom did have the tubes. It didn't have side panels though and this one looks like it does, although who know if they are original or not? That boat looks much better than ours which needed all new skins, however, I was surprised at how good the condition that the framing was in once we tore it apart.
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Originally posted by Riley Riley wrote:

They are for vents. There should be 2 aluminum tubes that go from the holes in the deck to a holes in the floor board. You should have 4 chrome vents. Two for those holes and two for the holes in the side near the transom. It looks better than the one from the diaries, which we bought in '09.

Not necessarily Bruce - CC didn't always use the tubes. Some models simply had a panel covering the space between the frames creating the "channel" down to the bilge.


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Originally posted by jjcorrectcraftfan jjcorrectcraftfan wrote:

Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

I just caught this thread!! Yes, everyone's correct that it is an Atom. Great find but it sure needs some work. It may be tough to bring the bright work back since the varnish has been very neglected. What's up with the transom?? Fill me in as I can't tell if it's rot and peeling paint or what??

Does the engine run?

How far back from the windshield are the 2" holes?

A tower on the boat???



The holes are right behing the front row of seats. There is some rot on the stern of the boat but i think i can cut a new piece of wood to fit. I have no idea if the engine runs. The guy i got it from had it rebuilt but then had to get rid of the boat. It has no oil is gas so it shouldnt be set up. I think i will sand down all the varnish and then revarnish and caulk it. Also i dont see a ski pole right behind the engine. The ohio water craft registration expired in 1990 so this boat hasnt been in the water for a while

Then, they are holes for venting the engine/bilge. Someone must have stolen the "clam shell" vents.

Do NOT just think you can replace the skin on the transom!! You WILL find additional work inside!!
Also, this is a ply skin hull and CC's idea of bonding the ply to the hull was to use a bedding compound like Dolfinite. This is simply a linseed oil and talc based product that dries out over time. So, the bottom line is the only thing holding the ply skin to the frames and ALL the seams are the screws. Looking at the pictures, this is evident. You have a project ahead of you!!!!!!


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They are for vents. There should be 2 aluminum tubes that go from the holes in the deck to a holes in the floor board. You should have 4 chrome vents. Two for those holes and two for the holes in the side near the transom. It looks better than the one from the diaries, which we bought in '09.
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