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8122pbrainard
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Posted: April-15-2013 at 8:14am |
Dan,
As Chris mentioned, a couple thin coats of CPES or the home brew sure wouldn't hurt. However, I would avoid the West full coat of resin. Your brother in law will know if he uses it for bright work that it will turn white over time without any UV protection. Even though the wood you are replacing is on the bottom of the platform, the edges are exposed and the light will still get to it. I've seen some horrible UV damage to wood transoms from the sun reflecting off the water under wet boat house doors. Is you brother in law an ACBS member? If so, what chapter(s)? What type of wood boats does he build? That price for a BF of Teak is unbelievable!! You must not be shopping around. Reclaimed teak is 1/3rd the cost. Reclaimed is very available since the import ban on virgin. |
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SNobsessed
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You can thin the epoxy out with Xylene & it will penetrate further into the grain (Home brew CPES).
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Dan in CT
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My bro-in-law is a wooden boat builder. He recommended coating the mahogany with epoxy (west systems). That is what I'm gonna use.
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SNobsessed
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Just wondering -- could the mahogany be treated with CPES to extend it's life?
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Dan:
It's great to renew a platform... I have done a rebuild and tried to rebuild one that was too far gone. The CCFan store makes theirs out of Jatoba and it was great. Whether you rebuild, get new or just clean up an old, tired swim platform....when it's done, it just makes you smile - REAL big! |
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Dan in CT
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Well, I have not done much work with Mahogany or teak for that matter, sorry for my inexperience. Clearly you're an expert. By the way, $8/bf compared to the teak which was $30/bf. I'll report back in 4 or 5 years to let you know how the platform is doing. Anyway, I need to save my nickels for the BA wake tower I'm going to install next month!
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8122pbrainard
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If it's towards the pink color, then most likely it's Philippine Mahogany. It's rot resistance is pretty poor so don't expect it to last very long. You would have been better off going with the higher cost of using Teak or at least a Teak alternate like Ipe. Now, you may be faced with replacing the bottom boards again. Twice the cost of the Mahogany would come close to the Teak initial cost!
BTW, all mahoganies are open grain. |
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8122pbrainard
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Your profile states you are a woodworker. |
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Dan in CT
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Not sure, it is light pink/brown in color. Not sapwood, open grained. Not very dense.
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8122pbrainard
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African, Honduran or Philippine? Heart or sap? |
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Dan in CT
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Platform update. Replacing bottom boards with 5/4 mahogany. Teak just too expensive. The original glue/epoxy is not a ail able any more. Looked at 5200, but have settled on 105. I lightly sand the top, careful not to loose the contours made by years of use. Here are a couple of photos. Dan
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Hey Tim come up anytime!
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65 'cuda
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The platform on my barracuda is from a SAN it looks like it had some glue (dark glue lines, I could be wrong however!
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TRBenj
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Yeah that must be it... Black and gray stripes, or is my memory fading? I don't make my way out there often, but he boat caught my eye last time I came through in the daylight. I've driven by pocotopaug a few times, looks like a nice lake. You're the second person on here that knows the lake (audiodude is the other) so I may drop you a line if I decide to go exploring this summer!
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Dan in CT
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Could be. Portland Reservoir rd. on the way to Rt 2. Bought the boat from neighbor 2 doors down and well in the woods. He got a newer SN. Stop in some time. Dan
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TRBenj
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Another Pocotopaug regular? Is that your boat off chapman rd?
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Dan in CT
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Will do. Thanks, Dan
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Dan in CT
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Thanks for the info. I live in East Hampton.
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TRBenj
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Agreed on the screws, none of the cc platforms that I've disassembled appeared to have ever been glued together. I didn't use glue when reassembling and they are holding up just fine.
The original platform would have to be in extremely sorry shape (broken or missing boards) to make restoring it the less preferred method. Where in ct are you, Dan? |
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65 'cuda
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I'm not convinced on the 5200, I've experimented with that and the results were not that good, I've used urethane glue as well, I think it worked better but is messy, cleaning up the foamy squeeze out is a pain), At the end of the day, the screws are what is holding it together!
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8122pbrainard
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Dan,
Welcome to CCfan. Make sure you get us some pictures of the boat. A diary entry would be great as well. Did your 81 come with or without a platform? If the former, is it just in bad shape? If so, there are some fantastic threads on refinishing Teak. If you do decide to make your own, I do not recommend the resorcinol. Although strong, it is brittle and doesn't allow any flex. Do try to get as much oil off the glue joint with a strong solvent but then I'd go with 3M 5200. The polyurethanes have a very tenacious bond and the 5200 has the added benefit of some flex. It will also allow movement when the wood goes through wet and dry cycles. The resorcinol will not. BTW, have you priced Teak lately? There are alternates!! |
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65 'cuda
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Sand the wood at the joints,(to remove the mill glaze) wipe with acetone, (to remove the oils at the surface) let the solvent flash off and glue with two part resorcinol. The factory platforms look like they were glued with resorcinol but eventually the glue joints fail. The stainless steel screws reach nearly to the top surface of the platform. Pilot the holes accuratly and run the screws in while the glue is setting.
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SN206
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Have you checked out the web sight's "store"?
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Dan in CT
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Hey folks, new SN owner. 1981 (standard not anni.). Will post pics once the shrink wrap if off! I am wondering if any woodworkers out there have made a platform. Seems like a relatively easy job, but hate to reinvent the wheel if someone has some experience. I will be sticking with teak, which I know has glue issues. Thanks, Dan
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