Anyone seen one of these Steering cables?

Glad to see you got it sorted and did not use that second hand cable when the new was so reasonably priced.

Great progress!

gonna hafta change the helm too. unless there is something I'm missing.
should just be a cable and helm change unless you want tilt too then you get new tilt too. If I'm not mistaken it's just that simple.

The pictures of old vs new look like the difference between 1.75" vs 1.25" or ssc124 vs ssc134 cables. They are two different cables altogether.

The difference, if there is one, is between the two racks. Do you have a picture of the 2 racks side by side?

Don it would be good if you could clarify if your old helm was a Morse unit.

I think we may have covered some ground here that Skidim had already traveled.

All good information for future reference on this amazing resource site. CC sure did some changing about with there early rack and pinion setups.

I also remember Jody mentioning something in a old thread about the rack and pinion steering systems. He and Art would be able to confirm what happened back at the factory. Cool when we can have it confirmed by the people who actually made these boats.

TX Foilhead wrote: Just so you're not confused, that was a special cable mate for CC, the only place to get it is from a dealer.

Don I think you are confusing the cable helm and with the rack. The steering cable for cable helm 1982-1990 was a OEM part only that had a different throw to the standard cables. This cable was only available through dealers.

Here is the SSC12420 Cable from Go2Marine

The rack cable has the same throw. Does not mater if it is purchased at the dealer, Teleflex or elsewhere.

Don you may have had the Morse rack helm that was only used from 91-92 according to Skidim. Must have had some left over for your 93 Excel. This is what is causing the confusion. Chris will have the Teleflex helm on his 96 Tique that will take the Teleflex cable.

Just so you're not confused, that was a special cable mate for CC, the only place to get it is from a dealer.    The new one has a wider and thinner rack, bolt holes line up but the gears won't touch. I haven't put the old and the new helm together to check the difference, but I can if you want to see and I get home in time.

OH! That makes complete sense. Thanks, Benj. I was not thinking about the impact flipping over the rack would have on the other end of the line.

I don't want to add more confusion but.... what I find interesting here is that your helm in the photos above appears turned 180-degrees from the way mine is oriented. In both the 1993 SN boats I've owned the rack goes on the top of the helm, where yours attaches from underneath. I wonder why it is different? Besides that flip, everything there looks exactly the same as what is above my knees.

So, I just called Go2Marine and talked to their steering cable guy. I gave him the original number off my cable that's in the boat and of course, he was thrown off by the last digits (ssc12479). The last two digits obviously indicates the length of the cable from the rack to the stop fitting.

We both agreed the boat was not 79ft long and had a discussion about the rack width. He knew right away that I needed the 1.25" rack. I asked him if the size of the rack effects the throw at all and he claimed "no" quite confidently. He said the "ssc124" part of the cable number is the same weather it's OEM or not. This makes sense because there is no way to increase throw of a cable without increasing the length (not width) of the rack. If you look at the link I posted to nautiqueparts.com, it looks like the length of both size racks are about the same.

For me to switch to the 1.75" helm with my adjustable steering wheel would cost over $300 not including the cable.

Sorry I'm not saying your wrong but I just want to cover all my angles so I don't wind up with a reduced maneuverability. All the cables I've researched have the same hardware and the only variable is the length of the teleflex. I feel like I'm getting close to a revelation. Is there a known dimension or documented detail about throw or are we just talking about how they feel.

I'm not being a smart a$$ or sarcastic, I'm just trying to see the picture in the puzzle.

Chris

Mark once again thank you. Great information.

I will put an order out as soon as I determine the correct length and I will document the process here for anyone in the same predicament.

One question however, what is the advantage of the newer (wider) helm gear? Would you notice any difference in handling or is it one of those "nice to have" situations?

Chris

Don by "the new one" are you referring to the one in the link from mark?

What about
This one?

Does this come in the old helm style?

What made you distrust the new style cable? Did it feel different? What are you using now and where did you get it?

Thanks again mark for looking that up. I call tomorrow and see how familiar they are with my boat.

Later this week when I get home I will pull the old cable out and measure it. Everyone I've talked to about this cable says its the same one as the 196's.

I think I literally talked to too many people when researching these and everyone had a different idea about what I had. It started to get a little confusing.

Can I? So far all I've been offered is the 1.75" OEM for $300. Ok ill do some more calling. It sucks doing research from a phone.

Thanks mark.

Continuing the steering problem, here is the link to the replacement.

Cable

You'll notice that the original racks are smaller than the new ones. Guess which one I have

They start at $300 and the helm is another $125.

That's why I was interested in the used cable for the time being. If it was in good condition and the size I needed, it could have been a temp fix until I get the funds back to replace everything.

My cable right now is completely seized. I'm of the mentality of doing things the right way and I know most of you have seen my progress with this boat, but I'm running low on boat money. Most people send a few years overhauling their projects, but all of mine have come within a month of purchase and I haven't even bought new manifolds yet.

Ill get through it but that's why I was looking at a used cable.