2001 Air Nautique -Dash Pod Switches don't work

mdvalant wrote: I think I got yelled at for trying to make something factory not factory. Probably by Pete EDIT: That was a joke about Pete, to be clear.

Mike,
I took it as a joke so don't worry about it.


However, at least the idea is to put the key switch under the dash not upsetting the original looks!

Doesn't Aloha mean hello?

EDIT: TIL (today I learned) it means both hello and good bye


a·lo·ha
əˈlōˌhä/Submit
exclamation & noun
Hawaiian word used when greeting or parting from someone.

Allhookedup wrote: Aloha!! Thanks, another ? ..Can you install a Key type ignition somewhere under the dash..Thanks

Allegedly it's been done, although the details have never been posted.

But, it stands to reason you could run a key switch in parallel. You just have to get a red, constant hot feed from the engine.

A.) You could either run a dedicated constant positive line from the engine breaker, in tandem with the one already there, or piggyback off of the one that's already there. Either way, connect that constant hot to the "BATT" terminal on your key switch.

B.) From there, you need to run a new line from the "S" terminal on the key switch to the Neutral Safety Switch, which supplies the starter.

C.) Run a dedicated ignition line from the "I" terminal on the key to wherever the Ignition wire goes on a GT-40... that one I'm not totally sure of but just trace where the existing purple line goes.

If you have a major explosion, we never had this conversation    I think you'll be alright though.

Use this electrical diagram for a basic reference, ignore the part about the carb choke distributor etc. It's from a carved boat:

I have seen a couple people that have tried/done it...I think.

Someone else might be able to post that thread or a quick how-to on that as I'm not familiar with it enough.

I asked that question too but I think I got yelled at for trying to make something factory not factory. Probably by Pete but I could be mistaken...anyways...hopefully someone will chime in.   

EDIT: That was a joke about Pete, to be clear.   

Aloha!! thanks again...another question can you install a key ignition(old school) somewhere under the dash?

mdvalant wrote: Hey Mark...Sounds like fun Initially I would said you have a bad start key pad. (left side with the start button) However, if it works with the other side unplugged I'm kind of at a loss there. I never tried that on my issue. We ended up having to buy a new start keypad as well. So, we have a new PME and a new start pad in our boat. If those pads get really wet they go bad, in my experience anyway.

Mark, that one's a toughie. I'll throw in one idea:

As Pete would say, "Time to break out the VOM!"

What I mean by that, is whatever wire is feeding the main unit, PME/Gateway what have you, see how much voltage you are getting there.

My hypothesis is that if the main unit is not getting enough voltage at the source, it may not have enough juice to power both the left and right pods at the same time.

2001 ski nautique... rt dash pod all lit up but nothing on left pod..can't pusn in code etc... unplugged rt side and now left side powers up and boat starts??? But when I plug in both sides the left pod is out but rt pod every button has green lights on..Any sugesstions

It ended up being the switch cluster. Very excited it wasn't the computer or another more expensive item. Not that the keypad was cheap, but could have been worst.

Thanks for the help diagnosing the problem

~Ben

Thanks for a heads up -- it appears that they are for a newer model (but will do som research if they are backward compatible -- probably not.

I went ahead and orderred a new switch cluster from nautiqueparts. Contacted CC, and sounded like they didn't have great ways to test it...

Hopefully it's the problem -- otherwise will just order the new unit as well :D

Learned a lot on how that worked last few days, thanks for all the help,
Ben

Do you have all of the features/accessories that are controlled by the keypad? You may have only a few wires because you may only have nav lights, anchor lights, courtesy lights, and bilge pump.

Lewy, is the Gateway box the same thing as that PME box, or are they two separate things?

The switches just send the signal to gateway box, much like a relay activation circuit.

The gateway box is where all the power distribution is done.

Thanks for the suggestions -- it was really easy to lift the dash -- four screws like you said.

It looked like the switches are plugged in (good idea to check that). I'm actually surprised w/ the fact that there are only a few wires going into the switch.

WIll do some more digging, thanks for all the advice.

Here is a picture of the switch panel



Thanks,
Ben

I would check to make sure it is plugged in first, that makes sense? Do you have pictures of your pod? Usually it is just the 4 large screws that let you lift up the whole pod and have a look.

I looked, and Nautiqueparts sells this whole cluster: http://www.nautiqueparts.com/keypadcarbonfiberstarboardside.aspx so I'm guessing it is possible for them to fail. Upwards of a 4 bills though.

On another dash pod related thread, someone had found a guy that will text different components. Wondering if you could use that same person to test this. I'll see if I can find it.