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    Posted: April-04-2015 at 1:58pm
Quinner and I don't have ethanol free gas nearby. I have to drive over the border about 30 miles each way to Lake Geneva WI to get ethanol free. It's only available in higher octane form, hence the premium required. I'm sure if we could buy ethanol free regular it would work fine for our lower compression engines. I'd still buy premium because of the 60 mile trip. I only buy ethanol free at end of the season. Mid season I'll just use BP or Shell premium and burn through it fast.
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Originally posted by SNobsessed SNobsessed wrote:

What is the theory for using premium after layup? Does gas lose octane over time?

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I have heard but have never confirmed that the premium is just better fuel and doesn't go bad as quick. One thing for sure is there is some truth to it. I buy premium for the mower and snow blower and have had a 5 gal can sit for quite some time. One year it didn't snow enough to get the blower out, the gas was purchased the previous spring and the following spring it was good and lasted most of the summer.


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Originally posted by SNobsessed SNobsessed wrote:

What is the theory for using premium after layup? Does gas lose octane over time?


No. You shouldn't lose any octane rating over time. If your gasoline is high octane from the refinery, then you are good to go. If you've "upped" the octane through an additive (like Octane Boost or similar), you may have an issue, but that would be entirely dependent on the additive.

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What is the theory for using premium after layup? Does gas lose octane over time?
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Yeah, they are junk in automotive too. Something about that cap makes it hold excessive moisture. The old 4.3 in the trucks would start fine one morning then the next do nothing when it ran perfectly the day before. Pop it off and it looks all green and corroded.

Those distributors also don't have a good rep in auto world for longevity.
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Originally posted by phatsat67 phatsat67 wrote:

ahhhh Quinnerrrr!!!! the originals weren't marine specific but the new PCM ones are all brass (Should have been originally).


Really Zachery, on the Excal's?? Did they modify anything else??

My GM mechanic buddy has said that specific cap has some know issues, IIRC something about the coil wire as well?? @ about 500hrs I am on cap #3, pretty lame
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Don't have harsh winters like quinner here in ATL but it does freeze. I just charge battery and the old ford typically fires up just fine year after year. I just adress tune issues as necessary, which are rare. Rather than add, I just stay near the gas dock and run out as much of the old fuel as possible, always works for me (knock on wood). But my lake is pretty much all non-ethanol. If you run ethanol maybe someone else will pipe in with additional advice.
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Originally posted by quinner quinner wrote:

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Regarding your 211, for sure add fresh fuel, the Excalibur in my 206 hates old fuel, and yes I always treat it and my layup is usually only 4-5 months. Also do yourself a favor and inspect the cap and rotor as they seem to have a shorter then average service life, also not a bad idea to keep a spare on hand. If yours has the Excalibur neither is marine specific so a genuine GM replacement part will work fine.


When the season "ended" I added a bottle of stabil, and I since I have owned it I have been putting nothing but ethanol free gas in it. It has been relativly easy to find here in the Charleston area (puregas.org helps too)

I will probably replace the cap, rotor plugs and plug wires here in the next month or so, I figured I would run the old fuel out of it, then fill it back up and do a spring tune up.
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ahhhh Quinnerrrr!!!! the originals weren't marine specific but the new PCM ones are all brass (Should have been originally).
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Tim,

Regarding your 211, for sure add fresh fuel, the Excalibur in my 206 hates old fuel, and yes I always treat it and my layup is usually only 4-5 months. Also do yourself a favor and inspect the cap and rotor as they seem to have a shorter then average service life, also not a bad idea to keep a spare on hand. If yours has the Excalibur neither is marine specific so a genuine GM replacement part will work fine.
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Likeliest issue would be Fuel, todays fuel goes stale very quickly, but could also be a non issue. If you have room in the tank add 5 gals of premium, run on the hose in the driveway and then head over to the lake, add fresh fuel just before you go out each time until the old stuff has been worked out of the system.
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Do you have the ability to start it on the trailer? I just fired up my 211 on Sunday for the first time since October. I put the battery charger on it a few days before, the charger when to "stand-by" in less than an hour, so the batteries still had a good charge.

Pulled it out of the garage, hooked up the hose to the flush kit and she fired right up. I figured starting it in the driveway would save me a trip to the river just to find out something wasn't going to cooperate with me if it was not going to start.   
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So I've had my 97 Sport Nautique in the garage all winter and haven't taken it out since about October. I didn't winterize it cause I live in Tampa and will occasionally take it out in the winter but this winter never seemed to find the time plus it seemed colder than normal.

My question is, since I haven't run it in sometime is there anything in particular I should do before getting it back on the water? I did at one point a couple months back put some fuel stabilizer in the gas tank.

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