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Riley 
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 Topic: Rot Doctor product experiencesPosted: April-01-2015 at 8:34pm |
True, but the stuff works good for awhile, although I'm probably exaggerating a bit as I fixed that floor at least 20 years ago and it's been pretty soft for quite awhile now. It's going to need the 5 gallon kit for the next repair. |
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: April-01-2015 at 7:43pm |
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I agree with trying to patch but DO NOT expect much. The rot will continue in areas where the CPES doesn't get to. I would also question the Rot Doctors product strength clams.
Chris, Sorry but the SS deck screws are junk. They will rust out just as quick as a plated screw. They are 400 series (cheap) SS plus, SS needs to be dry to to form the oxide on the surface that prevents the rust. The ceramic coated screws would be a better choice for this BAND AID!! |
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Hollywood
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Posted: April-01-2015 at 6:53pm |
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You're asking for repair advise and haven't even posted a picture of the damage.
I would probably leave the stringers alone since you have a cradle and just glass some new plywood down. |
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ChowHound
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Posted: April-01-2015 at 6:24pm |
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i don't have the facilities (garage/barn), nor the room to do a complete string job as an outdoor project.
as far as I know, I may not be living on the water next year! I refuse to trailer a boat to use it. So, it would be sold. jeeze - tough crowd out here. :) question still stands - is it worth CPESing? ETA: I would fully disclose the fact the it needs stringers when selling as I did with my 77 nautique - had no issue selling it for close to what I bought it for. |
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SNobsessed
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Posted: April-01-2015 at 6:14pm |
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I would just bite the bullet & restring, then keep it 5+ years.
If you tell a prospective buyer it needs stringers you won't get anything for it (unless they are an idiot). |
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Posted: April-01-2015 at 3:03pm |
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agree with you all.
The plan is to just get a few more years with this patch. At that point, if i still live on the water, assess my options. Full restore and keep it for life or, sell reasonably and consider any cost as the price of admission for a few years of good times/memories. Is it worth CPESing? I was also planning on pinning rather than screwing to sister... opinions? ..and thank you! |
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TRBenj
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Posted: April-01-2015 at 3:03pm |
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Bruce, I think the bandaid you performed and the one being discussed here are on opposite ends of the spectrum.
I agree with HW and Chris. Get this thing buttoned back up as cheaply and quickly as possible. It isn't likely to prevent much damage and it won't last long, but you'll be able to screw the seat down and get back on the water. For anyone else reading this and evaluating their own repair options, I would not give this one much consideration- just keep using it and don't touch it until you're ready to do it right. |
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SNobsessed
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Posted: April-01-2015 at 2:55pm |
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Don't bother with doug fir for the sisters.
Go with treated & attach with stainless deck screws (or epoxy coated ones). Spend as little on materials as you can. Like they said above, patching won't last long anyway. |
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Riley
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Posted: April-01-2015 at 2:40pm |
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Hah Hollywood, I did my repairs probably about the time you learned how to ski and they are now just getting to the point where they need to be freshened up, although no doubt the damage underneath the floor has worsened, but that'll be a job for Dave & his cousin someday.
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Hollywood
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Posted: April-01-2015 at 2:35pm |
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You are doing a lot of work (and spending money) for band aid. Half assed repairs will get you a few more seasons but they won't last, and the damage to the rest of the boat will only worsen.
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Riley
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Posted: April-01-2015 at 1:42pm |
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I agree with Tim, don't open it up until you're ready to replace everything. I have had success in firming up a floor by using Git Rot. You drill many holes into the plywood, but not through the plywood and injecting the Git Rot into the holes. It firms up pretty well.
Edit after you posted. Proceed as planned then. |
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Posted: April-01-2015 at 1:35pm |
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floor is open.
Drivers seat had nothing to screw into - gravity was all that was holding it down. all soft wood removed will be a couple years before i can think about a full stringer job. |
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TRBenj
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Posted: April-01-2015 at 1:27pm |
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If you haven't opened up the floor, I wouldn't touch it until you're ready to fix it the right way.
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Posted: April-01-2015 at 1:26pm |
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I'm about to undertake some structural repair to my 87 nautique - typical floor boards under the seats all mushed out, and some punky junk in the stringers.
My initial plan was to CPES everything, stake and fill void in stringer with the wood strips/filler (or make my own from the dust /layup resin), and sister up each original stringer with a piece of Doug Fir (same as original stringer dimensions) to span good wood to good wood, bind together and re-glass. Sections of secondary stringers will be replaced with new wood. After speaking to someone @ rot doctor, and hearing about it's strength/integrity, I'm considering not using the sisters. Anyone have experiences that can help me decide? Can't do a full stringer job now - maybe in a few years. :( thanks, Chow |
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