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8122pbrainard 
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 Topic: Hot water heaters in the North WoodsPosted: June-21-2015 at 1:11pm |
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Paul,
Now I understand. Yes, many have used the "economy" version using a domestic HWH for hydronic heating but I have a feeling that's not the case here. I still have a suspicion that Peter is talking about electrics with the poor recovery. The house may not have propane or natural or the other possibility the house is on oil. My in laws house up north is on oil, they always had plenty of guests so they ended up with 2 - 50 gal. electrics. When they don't have a house full, they turn the first 50 gal off. It then acts somewhat like a buffering tank. |
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Posted: June-21-2015 at 11:48am |
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Yea know that Pete was wondering if the plan was to run heat out of one and hotwater out of the other.
I ran the radiant floor heat in my garage from a 50 gallon electric hotwater tank till I got my oil burner set up. We also heated the basement with baseboard hotwater from the domestic HW tank by running a loop from the drain of the tank worked great for years till we got the addition and new HVAC system. |
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8122pbrainard
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Posted: June-21-2015 at 7:43am |
Domestic HW. Unless there's a leak, hydronic doesn't need make up water. 
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Posted: June-21-2015 at 12:17am |
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Are we talking hot water heat or just domestic hot water supply.
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Posted: June-20-2015 at 9:56pm |
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the tankless(199k btu) will supply far more water than the 50 electric so the electric is not needed also dont forget the 50 gal electrics will be heat pumps
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Posted: June-20-2015 at 2:09pm |
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I am not convinced yet on tankless technology, but 100 gals of water is a lot to keep hot day in and day out. What about using a tankless heater as a pre-heater for a single 50 gal traditional? (I am not an expert, this is a question more than an answer)
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Posted: June-20-2015 at 10:01am |
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electric /heat pump units have pretty good current rebates here , i think they are appr 1800.00 with a thousand dollar rebate on 50 gal units .not sure if you have the same rebate system there though.. by the way coming soon all tanks 50 gal or over will be reconfigured to have heat pumps . if you are filling a 65 gal+ hot tub you might not get enough from it .
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Posted: June-17-2015 at 11:05pm |
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Dude what's your mom doing that she needs 100 gallon of hot water, filling hot tubs.
I'm north of Pittsburgh and on a well we only have electric available and my 50 gallon keeps up with was 2 kids bath wife's shower then mine. There's no way she needs more than a 50 gallon. |
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Posted: June-17-2015 at 9:08pm |
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Peter,
Considering the plumber what's to install 2-50 gal. units, I'd guess they are electric. Electrics have a poor recovery. No natural gas or propane? My well water is cold as well but I've never had a problem with the 40 gal. gas in the house. Yes, waiting a few minutes after my daughter takes one of her epic showers is required!! I'll typically use the shower in the new shop. It has the "side arm" hot water tank hooked up to the hydronic heating boiler. I've never run out with it. |
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Posted: June-17-2015 at 8:00pm |
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efficiency wise, you might try a waste water heat re-claim device to give you some help on pre-heat, but the standard tank is probably cheapest. other cool "green" technologies include heat pump style water heaters and solar water heaters... none of these options will be as in-expensive as a tank though.... that's some cold water! A pre heat tank (smaller, set to a lower temp, could help too...)
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Posted: June-17-2015 at 1:32pm |
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We have an electric 50 gal traditional water heater from Ace Hardware up at the cabin. Works just fine for us. I think it was 200 bucks. Pretty standard stuff, really.
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Posted: June-17-2015 at 1:10pm |
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What is there now, is it gas or electric, what is the tank capacity and does she want that increased, does the existing piping need to be modified/upgraded, space limitations, etc. etc.
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Posted: June-17-2015 at 12:45pm |
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Pete or anyone with COLD water climate.
We hav our water coming from a Well that's maybe 39 degrees at it's warmest in the summer. WHat have you guys done for you hot water setup's? My mom is getting quoted $3000 to put in 2 50 gallon hotwater heaters... I was planning on just installing this for her this fall, I figure this is more then enough. http://www.menards.com/main/p-2751551-c-8690.htm |
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