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    Posted: March-01-2016 at 12:10pm
That wind was pretty harsh a couple weeks ago over my way, anything not tied down was scattered everywhere, kayaks, paddle boat, canoe, etc. roof damage on the lake house and one of the sheds and one window & frame all discombobulated at the lake house. Couple neighbors had roof damage and some siding that blew off. Driving that evening things were blowing all over the place.
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went for a run last night through town, random garbage cans scattered about and some plastic bags up in the trees
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

I have bumpers with terry cloth socks on them.


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Or even simpler, just throw an inner tube on it....

My father,grandfather, and great-grandfather....the main dock must have been occupied....

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For example. See two uprights at center. Run bolts thru upright, thru gap in dock frame, then thru a short backing board on inside of dock frame, and crank down real tight. Basically just sandwiching the angled metal dock frame with wood on both sides, not actually fastened to the metal itself.. Someone must have leaned hard on the rear one in this photo...which a little periodic tightening would have prevented.

15 minute project, time well spent. Be even simpler on a wood pier.... .

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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by marlo14 marlo14 wrote:

Some people install it lengthwise "accordion" style, which may rub on the side of a boat instead of the rub rail. Vertically over a post, square or round, should only contact the rubrail

Very few piers on our lakes up here are made with exposed vertical pilings (or legs) so all boat protection is installed horizontally on the pier itself.


That seems unnecessarily harmful, Why allow the hull to ever rub the dock at all, when it is so simple to attach uprights so that only the rub rail can contact?
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I have vertical 4" pilings down here with fire hose on them. They are so old the canvas covering is coming off exposing the black rubber and marking up the rub rail. I had 20' of brand new fire hose in my old truck at work when I left. We used it to pump manholes and whatever mud hole we were standing in. Recently they had changed over to the plastic stuff. Someone most likely thru it out when going thu my truck. I just ordered some new style vinyl for 4" posts,it's about 20 a foot ! Hope it lasts as long as the hose did.
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Yea, I've only seen it done horizontally, but the vertical idea would work if they are on the outside of pier (my grandpas pier in Michigan is that way and the little John boat would have a few less dings in it from when the tire gets knocked off the post!). Like I said, I don't really like it horizontally because it usually has/collects grit in it. The new style vinyl hose may actually be a great replacement idea.
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Originally posted by marlo14 marlo14 wrote:

Some people install it lengthwise "accordion" style, which may rub on the side of a boat instead of the rub rail. Vertically over a post, square or round, should only contact the rubrail

Very few piers on our lakes up here are made with exposed vertical pilings (or legs) so all boat protection is installed horizontally on the pier itself.


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Some people install it lengthwise "accordion" style, which may rub on the side of a boat instead of the rub rail. Vertically over a post, square or round, should only contact the rubrail (unless it's really rough out I guess) and would probably offer better protection than bare steel. I've only seen the accordion style used, and the problem is old fire hose usually has some worn in "grit" and continues to collect more in that fiber. The cloth covered hose is still readily available, although some fire departments have converted to a vinyl coated hose to be able to clean and repack hosebeds immediately without mold growing in the canvas covering. Most common in 1 1/2", 1 3/4", 2 1/2", 3", 5", and 6" ID.

Thinking about it, the vinyl coated hose may work better now because it is essentially the same material as the "commercial" dock material, but it is thicker! Fire hose needs to be tested annually and they do not get spliced to repair (sometimes "short" hoses are made though). Stop by your local fire department and ask, offering a donation would also be appreciated by most departments.

Another possible "benefit" to some is either the canvas covered or vinyl hose is available in numerous colors (might take a bigger donation to fire department to request what color!)!
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We put a bunch of it on our marina docks, came from a firefighter, he said it was retired fire hose, looked to be in great shape, but once it is "x" years old, they get new. It was definitely white fabric covered hose, we folded it like an accordion and screwed it on with stainless steel screws and washers.
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Originally posted by 65 'cuda 65 'cuda wrote:

Go to your local fire departments and ask them to give you a call when they have to retire fire hose.

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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Regrettably the old canvas covered rubber lay flat hose is long gone. I haven't see any of it in well over 20 years.


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Go to your local fire departments and ask them to give you a call when they have to retire fire hose.

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The alarm clock was flashing when I got home Saturday but my shingles, siding and boat tarps were all perfectly intact.

I heard pretty much all the ice shantys blew across the lakes though. Ha!
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Yeah I guess it wouldn't work on a wooden pier with square posts. On metal round poles it's great though, i don't see how you could ever scuff the hull in that application,   it would be physically impossible, as only the rub rail can contact it.

Moot point anyway if no longer available. My dad got a few rolls in the 70's and we still have some left, a "lifetime supply" as it lasts for years and years and you only use a few feet at a time.
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Originally posted by 74Wind 74Wind wrote:

Pete if I were you I'd race over there and ask for the old hose, the world's best padding for dock poles.

Jeff,
Regrettably the old canvas covered rubber lay flat hose is long gone. I haven't see any of it in well over 20 years. However, it scratches bright (varnished) or painted hull sides so I never considered using it on my pier. Vinyl works better. I also have bumpers with terry cloth socks on them.


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Pete if I were you I'd race over there and ask for the old hose, the world's best padding for dock poles.
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Well, the local news stations up here do struggle for stories at times. The other evening, they reported that the volunteer fire dept. got new hose and they actually had a clip showing how well it works!    So, last evening the big story was the high winds. Semi's turned over, trees ripped out of the ground, roofs peeled back and power outages in the Twin Lakes, Racine and Kenosha area.


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Seems like it's all over, got a little wild this afternoon, but nothing unusual
Besides the really warm air. It was over 60F for a few hours. Nice!
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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

I had to put long pants on when the sun went down,it's a bone chilling 71 out right now!
Heard from home,many branches down but no other problems


I feel your pain buddy...


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I had to put long pants on when the sun went down,it's a bone chilling 71 out right now!
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oh yes Pete....strong breeze outa the southwest....kept it down right cool. Hadta wear long pants to work..

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It's going to melt the ice fast though!
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Not that big of a deal. No power out here at Deep Lake!
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I heard you guys in southeastern Wi. and northeastern Il. had some bad winds today. Over 60 mph? CQ, HW, Steve, Peter, Dave, anybody any damage? Still have power?


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