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Frankenotter
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Posted: March-20-2017 at 8:01pm |
I think this is the way to go. No cutting or swearing.
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TRBenj
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Ah. Yeah it's impossible to cut all the way through the bushing in the center of the strut body without cutting into the strut at the end(s)... the blade is going to deflect *some*. As long as you're careful, cutting into it a little won't hurt anything.
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8122pbrainard
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Chris,
A recip saw (sawsall) Works better. Eric always said he would always cut up so if he did cut into the strut, a cut into the web wouldn't matter. |
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Frankenotter
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It's hard to explain in text but I was cutting with the hacksaw and it was very hard to keep the blade parallel to the strut. What ended up happening is the blade would rock back and fourth and left the middle in tact. Then I came in with a punch to try to fold the bearing enough to get the flat screwdriver under it. That ended up chipping off a section of the bearing about the size of a quarter. At that point I was afraid to cut into the strut so I made the puller with threaded rod and a pipe. 30-45min later it was out.
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8122pbrainard
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Chris,
You must have been doing something wrong for it to take that long. How about some details on your struggle with the cutlass. |
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TRBenj
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A few days?! Oh man.
Hack saw, hammer and a flat blade screwdriver... about a 45 min job (including the new bearing install). |
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Frankenotter
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There's a thread here for a puller that you can make for about $10 worth of parts from Home Depot. I spent a few days trying to cut my old cutlass out with a hack saw and punch. I finally made the puller and it came out in about an hour.
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flyweed
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Ok, so I'll pass on the tool and will wait until I can get a more experienced SN brother to have a look at it. My current cutlass does not give any from side to side, or up and down. so I think the bearing is good, it just squeaks when I turn the prop.
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'93 Ski Nautique NWZ, Air Boom Tower
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8122pbrainard
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Yup plus all the reports I hear, it only works about 30% of the time. You are pressing on the thin wall of the bearing which is brass and .050" thick. If the bearing is tight in the strut, the "blades" of the tool mushroom the brass sticking it real good in the strut and you end up removing the shaft (or strut) to cut the bearing out!! |
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skutsch
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That tool will set you back $360 plus shipping...
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flyweed
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yeah, I know what a dial indicator is....but mine doesn't have all those pipes and clamps with it..so I'll have to rig something up to hold it.
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SNobsessed
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This.is a dial indicator. You afix it to something solid (like the trailer & it will accurately measure small amounts of motion.
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flyweed
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Oh, I'd give him a GOOD swervy tube ride, followed by a good 12 pack of beer!! :)
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KENO
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Google tells me that Arrowhead Lake is only about 45 minutes or so from Pete and about the same to the Home Depot in Rhinelander where he works occasionally.
Tow it to him or get him to come for a visit and he could tell you what he thinks before you go doing things you may not need to do. He'd probably be glad to help you out. Just promise him a good fast really swervy tube ride with lotsa air this summer Here's a picture of how he likes it |
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KENO
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The squeak is probably because the bearing is dry, squirt a little water on the shaft so it will run down thru the cutlass bearing, then spin it. It will turn much easier when wet and won't squeak. I'd just do what SN Obsessed suggested and move it up, down, sideways by hand. A little movement is ok/good and a lot of slop not so good. It's kinda a "feel" type of thing as far as what's too much movement .005 inches of clearance is a good number for the clearance on a 1 inch shaft with a new bearing if you really want to measure it. this thread has some good information in it. |
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flyweed
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so basically I just put the dial indicator on the shaft and rotate it looking for any movement "out of round" ??? how do I hold the dial caliper in place, so it doesn't move for an accurate measurement?
what about, when I spin my prop by hand the cutlass "squeaks" a little when the shaft rotates?? |
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SNobsessed
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You could check the health of the cutlass bearing by trying to push the shaft side to side & looking for any play. Maybe even buy a dial indicator (pretty cheap) so you can measure any play.
If there isn't much play, then it is OK - don't replace it. |
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flyweed
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saw this tool to remove the cutlass bearing without removing the shaft on Youtube..is it REALLY this easy? Is this tool worth buying, and DIY'ing this??
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZQHLvUUyuE |
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flyweed
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Ok guys, I just called my local "boat shop" as I have been thinking of having my cutlass bearing replaced, and alignment checked...not that it really needed it, but again, this is one of those parts I have NO IDEA how many hours are on it and it's probably original to my 93 SN and I'd like for my peace of mind, to have a new cutlass bearing installed.
So, one shop told me the job to remove shaft, install new cutlass bearing and align shaft would be $600!!!! OUCH. So....what I was wondering if any of my "Northern WI" brethren on here would be willing/able to do it for me this coming spring, when I bring the boat up north? I don't feel I have the experience or necessary tooling to do it, so thought I'd ask those of you who are MORE experienced at this procedure. Thanks for any input. Dan |
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