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flyweed ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: July-11-2016 Location: WI Status: Offline Points: 549 |
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GH..I sent you a private message. But yes..these 93's seem to develop a number of the small hairline gel coat cracks, especially along the rub rail. I have some as well, but never did anything about those. They don't bother me too much. I did re-do the rest of the boat however. :)
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'93 Ski Nautique NWZ, Air Boom Tower
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GHTILL ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July-29-2018 Location: Aledo Status: Offline Points: 172 |
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Flyweed,
My wife and I recently purchased the same boat that you have. Same color scheme. Ours too needed much "elbow grease" to get up to par. Our boat was the 6th boat made for that year. The gelcoat needed a lot of work repairing small cracks on the upper deck.. Wondering if that was problematic for the year or just our old boat. The PO had replaced the interior (not very well) with their own idea of a color scheme. In your photos is that the original color scheme that our boats came with? I am planning to eventually replace all my interior and wanted to return to the original colors.Thanks for your help, Gregg |
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flyfishdelta ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: August-23-2017 Location: Ca - Delta Status: Offline Points: 35 |
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Ha , so the butterfly choke is wide open( cold) I can move it easily and close it to start the motor. Once she fires, the choke opens on its own and stays open.
I checked the linkage and all is fine, so the auto choke may just be bad or like you mentioned, maybe electrical or did I replace the linkage incorrectly?? I’ll have to chase down, but not while it’s 100+ degrees outside. Just to hot to work on her now. She runs good, took her for a 2 hr break in/ trouble shooting trip around the delta. Died once on rapid throttle, I tried to replicate and the other times she was fine. Have not towed anyone yet, sitting here right now waiting for 5 pm somewhere to take her out and try it again. Now where did I put my beer? Steve |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Steve, Is the choke mechanically adjusted so the choke plate is almost closed when the engine is cold? Then does it open after the engine is running? If not, sounds like all the electrical isn't fine. ![]() Yes, how do you manually choke the engine? |
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flyweed ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: July-11-2016 Location: WI Status: Offline Points: 549 |
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'93 Ski Nautique NWZ, Air Boom Tower
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flyweed ![]() Gold Member ![]() Joined: July-11-2016 Location: WI Status: Offline Points: 549 |
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how do you manually choke it?
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flyfishdelta ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: August-23-2017 Location: Ca - Delta Status: Offline Points: 35 |
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Have not updated the thread in a while,
Boat seems to run very well, The Electrical is fine, had a bad connection. (Thanks for all the help and diagrams.) Took it out on a long run, feels like I'm dragging a couple of buckets behind me... just a lot of drag. Top Speed is ~35MPH, The boat sat in the water for a year + before I got it and the hull had a bunch of crap stuck to it. I've tried Pressure washer and a few different hull cleaners, so far the only thing thats getting it cleaned is a plastic paint scrapper. With no trailer, sitting on a lift over the water, just not an easy job. The prop on one blade has a small curl at the tip, must have hit a log or something some time ago. So until I address the prop and the bottom, I just cruise the bays, nice and slow. Something new, the auto choke quit working???? anyone have an idea? Carb was rebuild over the late winter, idles well, throttles up great... have to manually choke it to start when cold. My projects lately have been rebuilding the dock around the boat and fixing the lift... thanks all Steve. |
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flyfishdelta ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: August-23-2017 Location: Ca - Delta Status: Offline Points: 35 |
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the end goal is to have two batteries. Battery box is small/ room for just one.
as far as the cover goes, with these winter storms, 1" of rain ends up being a full hull when the storm is over... Don't ask, just don't LOL to loud if your at work. I have to pull the drain plug on my Monterey, I only just installed a lift for the SN so I can keep it high and plug out during the winter months. (of course we had a storm roll through while on the lift recently and plug was still in UHG!!! Just part of dealing with a boat. |
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gun-driver ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: July-18-2008 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Status: Offline Points: 4127 |
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The battery box has a drain that goes into the bilge where the pump will take it out, no need to move it.
I hope after all this work you put a cover on the boat so the 1”s of rain doesn’t end up inside. |
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flyfishdelta ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: August-23-2017 Location: Ca - Delta Status: Offline Points: 35 |
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everyone has an opinion about battery's, I respect that. I worked on a project for a Battery mfg, and thats when I found out most readily available batteries are the same mfg, just a different label.
I was in the neighborhood of a Walmart and they only had the 24MS (maxx) in stock for $65 it's a deal. No other reason for that particular battery, I needed 2 quick for my Monterey and one for the SN. I know the hight issue on the SN, and I don't like that the battery sits so low in the hull. (we don't get a lot of rain, but when we do it's usually 1''s at a time. I want to move the battery(s) forward to keep it dry and in it's own batt box and eventually run two. One for just accessories. As far as the breaker I haven't actually tested anything yet, looks like a weekend project. It's strange that the old battery starts the boat just fine, and I know it's still good with no voltage loss. I think a little work there will tell me whats up. After reading everyones comments, I think I may know right where to look. This has been a great free project boat as I have taken it from a stuck motor, all the pumps dried up, starter was a big block of rust, and almost no steering to fast water over the last few months. I'm trying to wrap up the last few issues as I will be handing the keys to my son for his birthday next month. Free boats are not free as the old saying goes, and this one has produced some interesting challenges. Items to go -trouble shoot the breaker issue -new carpet -fuel sending unit -repare some chipped gel coat at the transom tow point -if needed reinforce the transom at the tow point -detailing (maybe some new decals) |
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gun-driver ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: July-18-2008 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Status: Offline Points: 4127 |
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First off the proper battery size for that boat should be a group 65. Secondly I’m not sure where KC is getting his information on EverStart it’s probably one of the best on the market for the $ as long as you get the EverStart MAXX. They are made by Johnson Controls the same company the makes Interstate, Sears and Optima Batteries I have one in my ‘85 ‘95 SN’s with no issues, I also have two in my Power Stroke F-250 that are close to 8 years old and just started my diesel in - 20*F in Quebec last month. |
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Bri892001 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-27-2008 Location: Boston MA Status: Offline Points: 4947 |
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Here is the wiring diagram that I believe was being referenced above:
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Steve,
Have you gotten any voltage readings when cranking the engine on both batteries? I suspect somethings up with that new battery since you trip the ignition breaker with it and not with the old battery. The two batteries are the variable. Get the VOM out and check the volts. A low voltage will cause a higher amp draw (Ohms law) and that may be overloading the breaker causing it to trip? BTW, why the 1000CCA? Bigger in a battery isn't better in my opinion. |
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flyfishdelta ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: August-23-2017 Location: Ca - Delta Status: Offline Points: 35 |
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I did replace the starter relay, forgot to list that part number, The old one cracked in half when I moved the + cable while replacing the starter.
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desertskier ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December-19-2006 Location: Az Status: Offline Points: 1117 |
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Also, the starter doesn't draw current through that breaker so it should be OK but the starter relay does. Did you replace the starter relay with the new starter?
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desertskier ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December-19-2006 Location: Az Status: Offline Points: 1117 |
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I just replaced mine during my rewire job. I think it was 30. I replaced a couple of the most used breakers and cleaned all the rest. I first sprayed them full of WD40, worked the button for a minute and then sprayed contact cleaner and worked some more. I would try cleaning it and see if that helps. You can do it with WD40, contact cleaner or rubbing alcohol.
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flyfishdelta ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: August-23-2017 Location: Ca - Delta Status: Offline Points: 35 |
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It's the ignition breaker,
Not sure the amps, I have seen 20, 40, and 50. depending on the diagram listed. the 351-wire-diagram-1 identifies the starter breaker as a 20 amp. looks like the 50 amp is on the motor, it was fine, the dash mounted breaker is the one that pops Thanks. |
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desertskier ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December-19-2006 Location: Az Status: Offline Points: 1117 |
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I used the same ones that Brian did. They come in two sizes. Used the larger one for grounds and one each of the smaller ones for power. Blue Sea Systems Bus Bars |
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flyfishdelta ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: August-23-2017 Location: Ca - Delta Status: Offline Points: 35 |
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are these breakers readily available or do I have to use the specific one from SN?
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21198 |
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Time to study the wiring diagram. The business end of the start circuit (batt to starter via solenoid) doesn’t go through the breaker.
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flyfishdelta ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: August-23-2017 Location: Ca - Delta Status: Offline Points: 35 |
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It took me about a minute to run out and install the battery on the Monterey to check and see if it's just a bad. Fired the motor right up, so back to the short issue... any ideas where to start looking?
New starter, cabling as required, no burning wires, arching that I can see or hear, the old battery fires the 351 right up, first hit nothing sounds, looks ... out of place shut off all accessories, so it's somewhere in the the starting process? the new starter maybe? that would suck!!! |
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flyfishdelta ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: August-23-2017 Location: Ca - Delta Status: Offline Points: 35 |
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Interesting thought on the battery being bad., I'll put it on my other boat (has two batteries) and try it.
As far as the Everlast, I have had great luck with them in my Monterey, I had to replace a 2007 battery this year, and my other 2014 is in the SN now. I think the key to longevity in the Monterey is the battery selector switch, I always shut it off when I'm not in the water. Planning to run duel batteries in the SN once I figure out the best location for the switch and new battery box. |
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First problem there is the Everstart - never been a fan of those for a cranking battery. Cars, boats, ATVs, garden tractors ... seems they rarely last longer than 2 years no matter how well you maintain them. Second, to a reasonable extent there's no such thing as too much CCA (MCA) for a cranking battery. Aside from a starting system short, an internal short in the Walmart battery might perhaps cause the breaker to trip or the breaker itself is aging and needs to be replaced. |
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flyfishdelta ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: August-23-2017 Location: Ca - Delta Status: Offline Points: 35 |
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I was afraid someone would say that, UHG!!!
Now if I were desertskier, I would have all my wiring nice and neat to trouble shoot everything, This boat has come a long way from when I got her, I'll have to try and figure out where to start, still have a few items to address, hope to wrap this project up in the next two weekends and have her ready for Summer. I'll post pictures, when she is all cleaned up, she was so messy didn't want to distract from what the project is all about. |
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KRoundy ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August-23-2010 Location: Lake Stevens Status: Offline Points: 1704 |
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Sean,
I like your grounding block and agree that is some high-quality work! Where did you get it? Looks like you are using all of it! There is a lot of stuff to ground. ![]() |
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SNobsessed ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: October-21-2007 Location: IA Status: Offline Points: 7102 |
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Breaker trip has nothing to do with how many cold cranking amp capacity your battery has.
My guess is you have a short & your old worn out battery droops so much it doesn't trip breaker. Breaker is doing its job. |
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flyfishdelta ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: August-23-2017 Location: Ca - Delta Status: Offline Points: 35 |
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recently bought a 24MS Everstart at Walmart for the 93 SN, ( it's a 24 MS / 1000CA, well it blows the breakers when I try to start the motor. Have to use my old Batt with 650CA from my other boat. any ideas? too much CA for the boat to handle? I have a 1998 21' Monterey with the Volvo Penta 5.0 and it can use the 24MS- 1000 CA with no issues??
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desertskier ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December-19-2006 Location: Az Status: Offline Points: 1117 |
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Thanks. I brought it home and had it flipped over on the dining room table for a few weeks. I verified everything was correct by applying power with a little battery charger.
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