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MrMcD
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My rub rail should be the same as yours. I have the black rubber with a red insert.
After an accident I thought mine would need replacement. It had scratches in it and the red was burned black in a couple spots. I actually sanded the black and the red lightly. Then used rubbing compound and finally polishing compound and it took out all the scratches and made it look brand new again. This was a pleasant surprize for me. I thought I would need total replacement. Maybe yours will buff up and look good. I should add that mine had very little time outside so the rubber and insert were still pliable and like new for the most part other than the accident. |
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gt40KS
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Yeah, that's one of the reasons I chose blue LED"s for the dash lights- much softer light that is night friendly, didn't have a choice with the stereo. I never opened the case to see if it was possible to swap the bulb, but my guess is no.
Thanks for the rub rail link - I was hoping by the time I finally bought the replacements they'd start manufacturing the center bead in colors again. |
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JCCI
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AAM196
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I bet the hidden side of your red rubrail cord is in far better condition... if you do go the complete new rubrail path... get it here:
uniflex 92033 you probably will not need dimmer for the instrument gauges... just the radio. Or do what I did for the first 5 years and throw a towel over the dash at nite. |
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gt40KS
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Thanks. As it happens, I'm in the process of a 3/4 ?? restoration right now - well, resto-mod - and there are several other additions and modifications happening this winter/ spring. I was going to wait a year or so, but due to some surprises, I had to push it up quite a bit. Posting progress and pics in another post.
As far as the stereo lights go, no they aren't dimmable and none of the dash lights either. It wouldn't take much to install a dimmer switch though if needed. I too wish they still made the red insert - all black is a bit boring. But all new rub rail is later this spring or summer so if that's all I can get .... |
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JCCI
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AAM196
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So we got more snow so I guess I should come on here and critique others boats...
I am in the camp of having a clean deck too but I must say you did a top notch job on the grab rail/cup holder install well really all your upgrades as the dash looks very nice too! I get the ski rope thing but even with a completely unmolested deck, I have ropes get stuck between transom and swim platform. I have 3 kids (now 8,10,12) and would say I have a lot of traffic to and from the swim platform sometimes three kids and a dog at same time, + while teaching kids to ski or helping them get skis on... I am always sitting there! I'd think they would get in way more than help but I too am finally buying into the "happy wife = happy life" moto. For this reason, I will be installing seat heaters this spring... Are your instrument lights dimmable? Specifically the stereo? My perfect pass gauge was my problem; it was distracting as hell driving at night or in fog... so I installed a kill switch to the light on the PP only.. To bad uniflex doesn't still sell the red cord for our rubrails! The would be the best $30 you could spend to enhance the looks... otherwise your gelcoat looks killer! Happy boating! |
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gt40KS
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Now those I like. Still not what I'd do with my Nautique. Most of the time the plastic, chrome or stainless ones are mounted or hang inboard of the gunnels and with limited walk space as it is with direct drive boats, I'd rather have the walk space. There is a type that mounts on top of surfaces, just a couple of screw holes. But adding these rear of the observer seat isn't a good option either since they'd obstruct the tow line path, especially if they are being used.
And Pete, there's even a version of these just for you, mounted with suction cups to avoid screw holes |
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JCCI
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8122pbrainard
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Not going original? Then, there is one more option and that's going "cheesy" retro.
Nothing beats stepping into a 50's boat with those screwed all over the dash and gunnels!! |
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gt40KS
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As for Evan's (EArnold) question.... It really wasn't as easy as one might think. The top surface of the gunnel isn't perfectly flat. So when you drill the hole for the cup and drop it in, it would wobble somewhat, having an eighth inch or so gap on both inboard and outboard sides of the lip and resting in the middle. The installation can be done a couple of ways. One requires 2 different sizes of hole saws, and a very steady hand. The other you'd need a router .... and a very steady hand. If you're interested in a detailed explanation of the installation, PM me. I've done finely detailed work like this with my business for over 30 years, so I was very confident with the process. If not very confident with the process yourself though, it may be better to go with an external cup holder of sorts because there are very fine tolerances with this specific project and things could go wonky in heartbeat.
Have fun and enjoy your boat! JOE |
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JCCI
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gt40KS
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Well Tim, as we all know there are those that agree with Pete's signature line "keep it original" - evidently you're one of those folks. And that's just fine, for those folks. But there are others of us that have a different thought ... more like Duane's signature line ... keep it as original as you want. For me though, it really all depends on what we're discussing. If we were talking about a cherry, all original 67 Shelby GT 500KR ... well, of course I'd keep it original - but perhaps not everyone would, and that's fine too since, well, it's not mine. But we aren't. And while there are plenty of folks on this site and all over the planet that have crafts of all sorts that are bone stock and all original, there are an equal amount that have a vast array of minor improvements all the way to full blown customs that have a substantial amount of upgrades, modifications and improvements. Does this make either party wrong? Nope. I've ALWAYS been a huge supporter of one very important adage: To each his own. I've done things to my boat that I feel were either necessary, more economical or just plain make more sense - to me - than what the factory produced with the boat. All or some of them may not be what others would do. And yet what others would do may not be what I would do ( case in point - those cheesy plastic cup holders you spoke of -- yuk ) But does that make me right and you wrong? Nope. If that's what you want because you don't want to add or modify your boat in any way, great. Just not great for me. And apparently, other folks from time to time. |
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JCCI
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8122pbrainard
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Morfoot
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Why drill holes in perfectly good gelcoat??? I just use the old school plastic car cup holders (the ones that have the tab and slide in between the window seal and window) and slide them between the combing pad and gunnel. That way you don't mess up perfectly good gel, can place them where you need them and as Pete would say...keep it original.! |
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EArnold
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Joe,
Great thread, that dash is beautiful. I've had it bookmarked for a few months and now that its looking warmer in NC I wanted to ask for any advice you have for installing the cupholders i.e. how best to drill the holes, remove the foam beneath, etc. This is an upgrade I've been wanting to make for a while and seeing how well yours turned out I'm ready to pull the trigger. Thanks much! ~Evan |
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8122pbrainard
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Were they drop shipped from the OEM or did they come from go2? If drop shipped, I wouldn't blame go2 right away. |
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Timr71
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Thanks! I need to take some measurements when I'm down at the boat next. |
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gt40KS
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Tim, these are the ones I bought: http://www.go2marine.com/product/387633F/sea-dog-pull-up-cleat.html Decent price, well made, super easy installation. Shipping department of this place was a bit slow though. |
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JCCI
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MartyMabe
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Wow-- with all the NEW Upgrades-- looks like you need some NEW Dash Pod Plaques E- mail me
mtmabe@northstate.net Marty Mabe |
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Timr71
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Thanks Kyle.
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kylem428
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Pop up cleats on Nautique Parts
I put 2 4.5" pop up cleats on my super sport towards the stern and have been very happy with them. Sorry for the hijak Kyle |
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Timr71
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I love/want/need those pop up cleats. MIght you share brand, model number, and place you purchased them from? Thanks! |
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gt40KS
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Yeah, I never did like those flip down types that's why I added the stainless for the rear. Plastic ones will stay there for when someone is actually skiing because a 44 oz. slurpy sticking up really would catch a rope @@ Drink too much? Well, I've always been told hydration, hydration, hydration!! |
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JCCI
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gt40KS
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You guys are nuts.... Each to their own Pete, but you know I'm a finish carpenter .... I like the wood tower !! |
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JCCI
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KENO
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Pete That's truly a showcase of your multi faceted engineering talents. You can use the tower to lift the engine straight up for transmission work or dropping the oil pan or a variety of other things.. Once again, I'll bet whoever built it had a lot of fun with it. By the way, if I owned your Tique, I'd go retro with it and paint stripes to match the Atom Skier. Maybe somebody can use one of those computer programs to show what it would look like. It wouldn't be your normal run of the mill Tique. |
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8122pbrainard
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Ken, You're not up to date with the progress I've made with the Atom. Here's the latest with the glassed hull, non original graphics and the best is the tower is now steel! |
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KENO
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MrMcD
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Hey, I like those stainless cupholders for the rear seats. Mine has those funky plastic pop out jobs mounted near the floor. It seems we always need more cupholders when on the Lake. Does that mean we drink too much?
Someone mentioned the NWZ having such great and near perfect lines. I could not agree more. Love the style. I am biased of course. |
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Gary S
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KENO
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Glad to see that everybody understands each others point of view now.
One of those little voices in my head told me it seemed quite out of character for Desertskier. I guess now we know why. By the way Joe, if I had Pete's Atom I'd put a tower on it probably made out of pressure treated pine and nailed to the floor and most definitely convert it to a Pertronix ignition Just keeping things light |
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gt40KS
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OUCH !! No doubt. It occurred to me after seeing this that likely no one had seen the docking cleats, since they were just installed this last week. One of the relatively minor issues I've had with the design of the finished craft was the lack of any docking cleats. In certain environments, and seeing how some have tied these to the bow lifting ring or a rope at the ski tow or pylon, I understand why it may not be a priority or even an issue. I however, have the need and really don't relish the idea of crawling over the windshield every time I want to tie off. So the low profile pop-ups I've had on my other boats seemed the perfect choice. Incidentally, that's a 28" space between the rear bars - more than enough for easy entry and exit without having to encounter the rails. |
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gt40KS
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Understood Sean, and I'm glad to understand where you are really coming from as the tenor of your previous posts suggested otherwise.
I agree and fully respect everyone's opinion, or right to thereof, and try not only to adhere to it myself but request nothing less in return. For those "Purists" out there - this site or others - I am certainly a purist myself, depending on exactly what we are discussing. As I mentioned to Pete a few posts back, if I had his classic Atom, it would be 100% original for sure. Constructive criticism is always welcome with me and apparently on this site, as it should be. And your observation of the ski rope is a mere extension of something that was posted previously. While I appreciate the input (truly) rest assured in this case I have more than enough experience ( that's a PC way of saying I'm old and have been around this stuff for a while ) to do the math on the ski rope trajectory while on plane and a bit of forethought, whether it be a snagged rope - hence the utilization of low profile pop-up cleats and low profile, gradual radius bends for the grab rails - or the potential hazards thereof. Incidentally, my kids were raised from the time they were 3 and 6 ( they are 28 and 31 now) in boats with grab rails at the stern without incident. It's really just a matter of what you get used to. So thanks for your input AND your compliment - and thanks to all by the way - and yes, we will have fun with it, once I'm done with the repairs and refurb process .... Fixing, not mods or upgrades - at this point those are pretty much done. |
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JCCI
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Gary S
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Check out this picture. I suspect it may have been the prototype boat used to get early brochure pictures. These cleats just look like their waiting to grab a toe or gash a calf. For what it's worth Joe, I think the dash turned out great. After seeing the old gauges, your poor boat was really neglected. Glad to see it reborn.
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