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gun-driver ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: July-18-2008 Location: Pittsburgh, Pa Status: Offline Points: 4127 |
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Don’t know who sold you the cam, but you’re not going to get 40 extra ponies from just a cam, with stock heads and intake. |
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gt40KS ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August-05-2017 Location: Wichita Kansas Status: Offline Points: 946 |
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Check the other thread Michael - I have links there and some photos. No other fittings, just straight from the manifolds to the Y and the Y straight into the 4" hose to the exit. Do you have the 3" or the 3.5" exhaust risers?
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JCCI
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mspalatro ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: April-15-2019 Location: MA Status: Offline Points: 5 |
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I am going to with Y conversion. Looking through some old threads I saw there was a boat dr that sold the conversion kits. I checked his website and I don’t think he is still in business. Do you have any online recommendations to buy parts?? Also for the install, was there anything you had to take into consideration like the placement of the Y fitting?? And did you run hose right from Y to manifold or did you use additional fittings for bends??
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gt40KS ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August-05-2017 Location: Wichita Kansas Status: Offline Points: 946 |
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I'm running the Y-pipe system in mine with a modified GT-40 that is likely sitting at about 340-350 hp .... not thinking I need any more exhaust than I have with just the single 4" through the back. If she was supercharged as well then I'd be needing more - but that puts it well over 500hp. You have to remember that our boats are more or less straight pipes from the manifolds after eliminating the invertaflo - few bends and all very gradual, none sharp. |
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JCCI
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mspalatro ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: April-15-2019 Location: MA Status: Offline Points: 5 |
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The engine does have cam that is supposed to bring it up to 300hp. Everything else is stock.
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gt40KS ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August-05-2017 Location: Wichita Kansas Status: Offline Points: 946 |
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What Joe said. Sound would be a bit different - not really better, just different - with duals. Did mine last year with no mufflers and Y-pipe into the one 4" outlet and IMO it sounds awesome. If there were any performance gains to be had it would likely only be with a highly modified engine that is going to require a lot more flow than a single 4" will allow. A stock, standard 240 (260) hp 351 would not require 2 - 3" outlets and in fact as Joe pointed out, this could be a detriment. Couple this with the HUGE pia it would be to run duals in our era of boat. I'd stay with the single 4".
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JCCI
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JoeinNY ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-19-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5698 |
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It will sound different, but it is very unlikely there would be any performance gain from going to straight duals with anything near a stock engine. Mostly likely you would see no difference, slight chance the duals would be slightly slower. |
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mspalatro ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: April-15-2019 Location: MA Status: Offline Points: 5 |
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I am looking to get rid of my inverta flo on my 1990 Nautique. Is there much of a performance gain to go straight dual vs y pipe?? I can see straight dual is a much bigger project.
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throttle out ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: May-11-2015 Location: Chelsea, MI Status: Offline Points: 153 |
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I don't have any photos of my boat but it looks identical to this.
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1989 Ski Nautique 2001 351 PCM w/ 1-1.23
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gt40KS ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August-05-2017 Location: Wichita Kansas Status: Offline Points: 946 |
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I should finally have my engine by the end of the week next week (of course .... now that I'm swamped with work) and hopefully be able to get everything prepped and in the boat over the weekend. The exhaust will be close to the last part of the install, but I will definitely post some pics of the process then.
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JCCI
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desertskier ![]() Platinum Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December-19-2006 Location: Az Status: Offline Points: 1117 |
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I did a muffler delete on our '89 about a year ago. My son uses it so I hadn't driven it until last weekend. I really like the way it sounds. Not too loud, slight drone while cruising but not bad and sounds great wide open. For some reason the '89 was much quieter than the '92. They both have the same muffler except the '89 has smaller diameter risers and less HP. I like the way the '92 sounds so I wouldn't delete the muffler but I'm glad I did it on the '89. The only issue I had was getting the muffler tubing to bend downward after the risers. It may have been the type of tubing I used. I can take some pictures but it will be a few weeks. |
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Goldcup101 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: August-27-2016 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 104 |
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I restored a bubbleback last year. It came from the PO with the Y-pipe which I've left as is. I would have bought a new hullhugger muffler until I saw the price! Noise doesn't seem too bad to me but I never heard it with a muffler.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Erik,
I did some searching and found this picture. I'm sure there are other examples posted.
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MNLakeSkier ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: February-24-2016 Location: minnetrista Status: Offline Points: 12 |
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Throttle out- anyway you could post a pic? I have an 89 as well and am about to do the same and just want to make sure I route everything correctly. Many thanks!
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Jonny Quest ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: August-20-2013 Location: Utah--via Texas Status: Offline Points: 3009 |
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I love the throaty growl of a V-8 as much as the next guy -- but my hearing is not too good, so I need all the noise reduction available. I replaced my blown-out Inverta-Flo muffler with a new unit when I performed major surgery to the engine a couple of years ago. I wish I could quiet things down even more...
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throttle out ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: May-11-2015 Location: Chelsea, MI Status: Offline Points: 153 |
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I'll try to get a sound clip next chance I get.
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1989 Ski Nautique 2001 351 PCM w/ 1-1.23
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gt40KS ![]() Gold Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August-05-2017 Location: Wichita Kansas Status: Offline Points: 946 |
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Good to hear real feedback from one that not only has done the conversion, but also seems to appreciate the throaty growl of a V8
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JCCI
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throttle out ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: May-11-2015 Location: Chelsea, MI Status: Offline Points: 153 |
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Just an FYI
I literally just did this conversion on my 89 using a Centek y-pipe. I fired it up for the first time yesterday and the sound difference is NO where near what I was expecting. At an idle sitting on the trailer it honestly would be hard to tell a difference, it is ever so slightly louder but more just sounds a bit different. At WFO it could be a completely different ball game but I won't know that for about a month yet as I'm replacing my interior. My buddy's got an 88 SN and his on the trailer is still much louder than mine at an idle, and sounds better as well. My boat slightly edges his out performance wise but man the 88 and older Nautiques sure do sound perfect lol. |
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1989 Ski Nautique 2001 351 PCM w/ 1-1.23
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Orlando76 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: May-21-2013 Location: Mount Dora, FL Status: Offline Points: 3108 |
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I think my cousin’s brother’s first grade teacher’s landscaper SN had logs too. |
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1976 Ski Nautique 351 Escort 1993 Ski Nautique purple and black 351 HO PCM |
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Riley ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-19-2004 Location: Portland, ME Status: Offline Points: 7963 |
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That's how photos of both boats look to me. What about the noise levels from lack of mufflers? |
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Hollywood ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: February-04-2004 Location: Twin Lakes, WI Status: Offline Points: 13522 |
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So you don't have a v hull log setup nor have you measured. Thanks for your input TRB
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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I have a feeling this is more an urban legend,does anyone have actual experience getting water in? Someone somewhere probably had a problem with a high overlap cam and over the transom exhausts,some other guys had trouble with big sport fishing boats backing down when fighting fish and then PCM's marketing dept who would sell an engine for any type boat said that their pyramid style exhaust were better than the logs for that reason. We just don't back up hard,we spend most our time going forward.
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21198 |
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The engine is lower relative to floor height in a v-hull like the Bfn but I bet the engine height relative to the water isn’t that much different. All that hull allows the a v-hull to float higher- the Bfn doesn’t dunk the chine by much, whereas the small flat bottoms float with the chine nearly a foot below the surface.
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Riley ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-19-2004 Location: Portland, ME Status: Offline Points: 7963 |
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Then you have plenty of time to have those cool looking logs.
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Hollywood ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: February-04-2004 Location: Twin Lakes, WI Status: Offline Points: 13522 |
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But I ski weekdays too...
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Riley ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-19-2004 Location: Portland, ME Status: Offline Points: 7963 |
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If you're elbows are significantly closer to the waterline than they are in a flat bottom, why not get some proper elbows or PCM manifolds and avoid all that pain when your weekend suddenly turns to saving your engine because it filled up with water?
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Hollywood ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: February-04-2004 Location: Twin Lakes, WI Status: Offline Points: 13522 |
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I assume you're talking about a 70s ski nautique?
If so, great, add another flat bottom boat to the list... |
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Orlando76 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: May-21-2013 Location: Mount Dora, FL Status: Offline Points: 3108 |
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I still have logs and straight pipes and no problemo.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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I didn't limit my statement to flat bottoms only. |
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