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zwoobah ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September-13-2018 Location: Providence RI Status: Offline Points: 308 |
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Joe - was browsing Bring a Trailer today and came across your name. This '62 looks beautiful. Hope you're making good progress with the boat
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-chevrolet-corvette-29/ |
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1968 Mustang 16 - 351W powered
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Joe Calcagno ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: November-11-2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 38 |
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Great idea, I'll do it.
Thanks, Joe |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Joe, Mark is correct with the .003". But, besides the middle of the shaft, get a reading aft of the strut. It's a common place for shafts to bend. Set the shaft in the V blocks one up around the coupling and the other were the cutlass runs. Then dial the aft end of the taper looking for the max of .003. |
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Joe Calcagno ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: November-11-2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 38 |
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That sounds interesting. I'm told that my strut is damaged beyond repair, so I will need another.
Let me know as soon as you can. Thanks, Joe |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21198 |
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I may have a 6a... give me a few days and I’ll try to put my hands on it.
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Joe Calcagno ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: November-11-2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 38 |
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Thank you, "V" blocks it is.
I'll set it up and measure the runout. Thanks again, Joe |
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MrMcD ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-28-2014 Location: Folsom, CA Status: Offline Points: 3778 |
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Having the prop shaft look straight is not the same as being straight.
To check you mount the shaft in V blocks and rotate it while checking with a dial indicator to verify straight. Pete can give you exact numbers but I think it has to be within .003 of straight to avoid issues. Your eye will not see a shaft that has a .015 bend but the V blocks and a dial indiator will find it. I have a thin cut off blade for my 4" angle grinder. It makes short work cutting through things like the strut you may need to modify. I have cut thick steel with it so a brass strut should be no problem. |
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Joe Calcagno ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: November-11-2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 38 |
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Great advice. I'll probably do the same as soon as I get tired of looking for a 6A.
Thank you again, Joe |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Yes, the prop end was cut 1" bringing the length down to 5" as mentioned. I pressed the cutlass in after the cut. I used a traditional 4" long brass/rubber cutlass.
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Joe Calcagno ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: November-11-2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 38 |
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I am imagining that the part you cut off was a portion nearest the propeller. It looks like that's where the extra length is. Do you remember how much material you cut off, and did you do it with the Cutless bushing installed?
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Joe, I said:
It's the length through the bore where the cutlass is that I cut. The base is the same. |
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Joe Calcagno ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: November-11-2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 38 |
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I sincerely appreciate your looking through the shed for me.
Joe |
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Joe Calcagno ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: November-11-2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 38 |
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I was told that it needed to be cut shorter. I asked if it needed to be just cut off with a hack saw or did it need to be sent to a machine shop.
He answered: Hack saw works. Porta band works. Reciprocating saw works. No machine shop needed. Thanks, Joe |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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6A6 strut The 6A6 bolted right up to where my 6A was. Again, what did they tell you needed modification? |
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93/70 ccpb ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March-05-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 448 |
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ok sorry couldnt help you out,back to the shed they go.
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what you dont want to hear from jbear and bill.you cant get in the boat till you get your minute,and they throw you back in water!
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Joe Calcagno ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: November-11-2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 38 |
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My base is: 5-3/4 long x 3-3/16 wide. Mounting holes are: 2-1/4 x 4-1/2.
Thanks, Joe |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Joe, What were you told needed to be modified on the strut? |
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93/70 ccpb ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March-05-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 448 |
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hey joe founbd a 6 f or b marked on strut ,hope tim looks and can tell us if thats right or wrong...base is 5 3/4 by 4 5/8 strut shaft hole is 5 1/8 middle of mounting holes are 4 1/2 and 3 1/2
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what you dont want to hear from jbear and bill.you cant get in the boat till you get your minute,and they throw you back in water!
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Joe Calcagno ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: November-11-2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 38 |
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I don’t mind at all.
It’s interesting to note that I give technical advice on early Corvettes every day, and now I need help with my Correct Craft boat. If you look at my web site, you will see a link, “Ask Joe a Question” I have answered two questions already today, and I enjoy doing it. This forum is wonderful. Today I have learned a lot through the courtesy of your members. Thank you, Joe |
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KENO ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11195 |
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Looks like you're in a pretty exclusive league when it comes to 56 to 62 Corvettes.
Here's a link to Joe's website Hope you don't mind Joe ![]() link |
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Joe Calcagno ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: November-11-2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 38 |
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Yes, it's a double taper shaft.
What's happening is that my son is doing the work in Truckee California and I'm here in Soquel bu Santa Cruz, trying to help with parts acquisition. About nine years ago I changed the shaft to the double taper type but I didn't remember that. I had used the improved double taper then. He's removing the parts to assess the damage and the information I'm getting is coming in hourly. It's clear that we need a new strut, and the 6A is probably the one I need. I found a 6A6 for sale new but I'm told that it needs to be modified to fit our boat. Once again, I'm veery pleased to have the opportunity to talk with people at Correct Craft Fan.com. I'm a Corvette restorer, so I'm out of my league when it comes to boats. Sincerely, Joe |
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Joe Calcagno ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: November-11-2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 38 |
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It turns out that I already have a double tapered shaft in there, and my son just removed it this morning and he says that it's absolutely straight. Two people remarked that it was bent, but when removed it looks like it's dead straight.
Thank you for your offer at $75 for the shaft. That's a good price and I appreciate it. I still do need a strut, and I think it's a 6A at five inches. Sincerely, Joe |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Dan, I have a feeling Joe will want to replace the shaft with a double taper.
Is the one you have a double? |
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93/70 ccpb ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March-05-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 448 |
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hey joe,went to the parts shed i have a 40 shaft if you need it 75.00 plus shipping,let me know.ill try to post pic later.have not located a 6a or 6a6 strut yet.
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what you dont want to hear from jbear and bill.you cant get in the boat till you get your minute,and they throw you back in water!
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Joe Calcagno ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: November-11-2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 38 |
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Okay, that's great.
Thank you for all your help today. Joe Calcagno |
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Joe Calcagno ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: November-11-2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 38 |
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Great, thank you.
It turns out that I have the double tapered shaft in there right now. I had forgotten because I changed the shaft several years ago to the improved style that you mention. This morning I measured the original shaft here in my shop before I gave the measurements not remembering that the shaft had been changed. Sincerely, Joe Calcagno |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Hack saw works. Porta band works. Reciprocating saw works. No machine shop needed. |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Joe,
Regarding the prop shaft, have you looked at the double tapers? Besides the tapered prop end, the coupling end is also tapered. A matching tapered bore coupling comes with the shaft. It same the heat shrink interference fit required with the straight bore coupling/shaft. ARE is one brand and then General Propeller also makes one. |
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Joe Calcagno ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: November-11-2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 38 |
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Okay, thank you. You say the 6A6 is too long so you cut it down. Did you do that with a saw, or was it necessary to take it to a machine shop to have it cut down to 5 inches?
Joe |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Joe,
Yes, the 6A6 is the longer version of the 6A. I went through the same issue a couple years ago, bought the 6A6 and cut it down in length to match the original 5". I don't believe the 6A's are available so the 6A6 is the route to go. |
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