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    Posted: September-24-2006 at 9:13pm
jimbo- I haven't tried it yet, been busy with other issues. When I get into the deep cleaning phase I will give it a try. I did take a green scratchy pad and water to it, that helped a little.

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Randy, did you try the CLR?
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ya know, there is a guy in england that claims that if you paint the bottem of the boat with this paint that he invented from the water line down, he claims a gain in mph, he gaureenteed us 5 mph on a 47 foot couger diesel powered boat we ran. the only thing was he wants 30k to do it, and the the owner of the boat was considering it
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Originally posted by JoeinNY JoeinNY wrote:

now it is possible that a specific rough surface finish could trip a laminar boundry layer in certain conditions and make it easier for a propellor to spin up and give you a better hole shot


So this is like the waxxed hull game?
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Well if were gettin nerdy,

Propellor "bite" is not about friction between the propellor and the water, now it is possible that a specific rough surface finish could trip a laminar boundry layer in certain conditions and make it easier for a propellor to spin up and give you a better hole shot but that would be tricky to control at best and most likely would cost you in top end efficiency. But yeah its all negligible at the speeds we are talking about..
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it propably doesn't make much difference but it would do the opposite and perform a little better and cut thru the water easier.
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I'm gonna be a little nerdy here, but wouldn't a polished prop give you less bite in the water?

Differences are probably negligable and will cause another pylon vs. tower debate.
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Hey Eric-

My boat is shiny. The engine runs. I use it 3-4 days a week.

As long as the prop does its job im not worried.

Besides, all of the mermaids are attracted to the polished sky ski.

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tim, were trying to attract some mermaids, if you were a mermaid wouldnt you want a nice shiney prop? or a dull used one
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Polishing the underwater gear?

You guys have wayyy too much time on your hands. If you use the boat that stuff will just wear off. If I want to shine my prop up I just park it on the sandbar for a day and have a few beers. When it gets back to the lift it is shiny, the next day it is dull again. Put your time into pulling your kids skiing instead of shining the prop that nobody can see in the water!

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Yuor prop looks like they just acid washed the hull and you have some corrosion from it. Dont wast your time pulling everything apart.
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Randy, no problem, whenever your ready, its also nice to take your stuffing box apart and do all of that too, if your not going to go to the dripless.
bring the rudder and strut if you would like, this will also give you the operrtunity to get your alignment dialed in.
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Eric- Thanks, I may take you up on that. could I take the rudder off and get it done too? I am going to try cleaning it up myself first. I would rather not take the prop/rudder off yet. I may want to put it in the water.
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now if you put a mirror behind the boat and snap a picture of the mirror the picture will appear to be a right handed prop but it really is a left handed prop.
   im convinced, learned something today
    randy, i have a media blast cabinet, it does wonders on props, if you want meet in macedonia with it and i will blast if for you, then you can buff after that
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Stang72- last night was the first time I have taken it out since buying it. It was as smooth as it has always been, no vibration. I was worried I would have some because of a few nicks in the prop.
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Never had one that scummy....maybe someone can chime in! I use wet sand paper to polish... 800grt...followed by 1000.Maybe a scotch pad and detergent at first?

There is enough crud to throw your prop way out of balance...I bet it vibrates a bit?
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79nautique- yes that is fishing line around the cotter pin.

stang72- I know, the bottom looks terrible, I just bought it and, well, it's a little dirty...

What is the best way to clean the prop/rudder, It is mostly corrosion. probably from the acid bottom cleaner.

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Randy...looks like you have major scale or corrosion on your hardware....clean it up and smooth and polish Smooth is a good thing!
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RH prop, check that cotter pin it duesn't look good in this picture or maybe its something else like fish line or something.
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only bad thing about that motor is the crappy motorola designed ignition system but it's easy to swap that out for a distributor and have a reliable ign.
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remember the 9 degree down angle, same mounts, same bellhousing,
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Thats what I am thinking, anyone know if you can used the same engine/trans mounts, shaft coupling, etc.. with a 1.23:1 as a borg warner 1:1. I need to build a 351 for the 83 this winter so the mustang can have the 302 back and I am still torn on the std rot vs rev rot because of a few parts that are not available for the rev rot....
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The only pcm I would use would be the 1.23:1 to use a std rotation motor built to the heilt.
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79, they will fit in place of a borg warner, same mount pattern, same coupling, same length, they have a 15 spline input instead of the 26 spline. they are the bayliner of transmissions. over the years i have switched them out for a borg warner.
warning: dont take your borg warner out and put a pcm in place of it lol   eric
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the PCM 1:1 is what throws me, a BW 1:1 or 1.23:1 PCM are no brainer's just haven't heard alot about the PCM 1:1's
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were basing this all on circumstantual evidence, im 50/50 on this one. im basing this on about 30 transmissions and none of them were a$$ bacwards
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I will get a shot of the prop and post it tonight.
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I would be extremely surprised if Correct Craft went from RH motors with the 1:1, then LH, then back to RH. Like I said, Ive seen a 1:1 '94 with a RH motor and RH prop. It should have the same set up as Randy's '93, which seems consistent with his reverse rotation starter fixing the problem.
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Gee Eric your tough to convince, Randy out there doing laps in the boat after removing the std rot starter and installing the rev rot starter was pretty convincing as far as I was concerned..
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actually i talked to one of my guys here and he said he seen one with the pump indexed for a counter rotating engine... except it was a 1.23:1 which output turns opposite of input in forward so that means you would still need a left hand prop, remember i have know way of telling what boats these our out of. and a im just stating facts.   maybe the trans with the pumps going backwards lasts longer? lol
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