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67 ski nat ![]() Platinum Member ![]() Joined: July-19-2018 Location: Santa rosa Status: Offline Points: 1199 |
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I understand original for sure, and need that input
But powder coating is superior to paint I can not find stainless color paint, so that color is good base I can always paint white over stainless coating like Gary S If it does not look right I can paint white and clear |
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KENO ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11191 |
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Daryn You might want to remind "Mr Original" that there's plenty of non originality on your boat, just like there is on his Tique. ![]() |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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I painted mine silver as well but tired of it. When I redid the boat I went with the white
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67 ski nat ![]() Platinum Member ![]() Joined: July-19-2018 Location: Santa rosa Status: Offline Points: 1199 |
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Sure most I see are white
It looked really nice in bare metal after I cleaned And sanded it Thought a stainless color would match other metal hardware |
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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You do know they were originally white right?
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67 ski nat ![]() Platinum Member ![]() Joined: July-19-2018 Location: Santa rosa Status: Offline Points: 1199 |
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Thanks TRB. My pylon and finger matches the 60’s version good to know it’s original
Having it powder coated today (anodized silver aluminum). Kinda looks stainless |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21198 |
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To bring this full circle, I found a pic of the ‘75 stepped version. Very different than the 60’s stuff and I’m guessing a partial year only offering? I have seen other 75’s with the normal (full 2.5”) style used 76+. The top portion looks to match the 73-74 style before the transition to larger diameter. ![]() |
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67 ski nat ![]() Platinum Member ![]() Joined: July-19-2018 Location: Santa rosa Status: Offline Points: 1199 |
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Pete and 75 tique, my non-oem bracket looks just like 75’s first one, only mine was made of angle iron and not bent like 75’s (your flat bar bent
Nice looking new one, I’m feeling better about re-fabrication of bracket now Waffles |
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75 Tique ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: August-12-2004 Location: Seven Lakes, NC Status: Offline Points: 6131 |
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75 Tique ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: August-12-2004 Location: Seven Lakes, NC Status: Offline Points: 6131 |
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My ski tique presumably started with the pylon just supported by the wood floor. Some previous owner put this metal support in, kind of like the one shown above. As you can see, it got bent. Pylon not bent, just this support. Not sure if I did it, but may have happened with a few four man pulls. I tried shimming between the pylon and bent support but that never worked so I had three ideas on the table. 1- go back to all wood, like original 2 - remount this same support a little farther forward so it contacted pylon again (tho new holes so close to old holes in potentially less than super solid stringers concerned me) or 3- start fresh. I went to a neighbor who is pretty good with such things. He said, Oh, I'll whip you up a new one, which he proceeded to do that afternoon with some stock he had laying around. Well, I was a little concerned that that one of the four holes for the mounting screws was 16/10,000s off, but decided I could live with it. It bolted to the stringers in 6 spots. Notice how the top support piece is not welded on but bolted on. That was so it could be removed to access the center bolts. Guy thought of everything. He's pretty handy. This other project he is working on was on the other side of his shop. |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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What made? |
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67 ski nat ![]() Platinum Member ![]() Joined: July-19-2018 Location: Santa rosa Status: Offline Points: 1199 |
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Good info TRB, thanks
I’ll have it made and try it, test fit |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Correct. The pylon was mounted from the factory with the pin and socket at the keel and then at the floor with a hole through it and typically a 2x spanning the main stringers. No metal except the beauty ring. The dealer install was pretty simple. The socket at the keel many times was already glassed in from the factory so it was just hole saw at the floor, insert the pylon and screw down the beauty ring. Daryn, I suspect that camp that had your boat damaged the 2x at the floor and then added the angle between the stringers. |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21198 |
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No, cc didn’t add any stringer clamping system until the aluminum engine cradle came in ‘80. |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21198 |
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The pass through at the floor is what normally holds the pylon in place. Some have added a welded flange to clamp the floor more tightly (this is what cc did on the ~75-79 SN.
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67 ski nat ![]() Platinum Member ![]() Joined: July-19-2018 Location: Santa rosa Status: Offline Points: 1199 |
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Anyone else have a support bracket under floor
What holds it steady |
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67 ski nat ![]() Platinum Member ![]() Joined: July-19-2018 Location: Santa rosa Status: Offline Points: 1199 |
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Yes that link looks just like mine, had it straightened yesterday
Will post some pics of new floor, bildge pump and pole when done Nearly All foam has been removed from boat, pretty clean now This pylon detail was good conversation to have. Pete do I have permission to refab that bracket, seems necessary Otherwise only pin holds pylon from moving, wobbly?? |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21198 |
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![]() Clear pic of the ~64-72 ring and finger from my 71: ![]() |
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KENO ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11191 |
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Does your pole "telescope" like the link below? It must have been optional ![]() But it is a good picture of a 67 pylon link |
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quinner ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: October-12-2005 Location: Unknown Status: Offline Points: 5828 |
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Hah Ken, a few more posts down is my Blue Classic bought from Jake :) Wonder how my pole is, I know I pull from it A LOT, sometimes even push! |
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Hollywood ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: February-04-2004 Location: Twin Lakes, WI Status: Offline Points: 13521 |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21198 |
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It looks like a normal 73-75 pylon to me... later r/f, aluminum construction and just the chamfer at the top. If you’re saying it has an additional step/graduation somewhere along its length and is 2.5” at the base then that’s something I haven’t seen before. All 73-75 I’ve encountered look like yours and remain ~2” for the full length. Beauty ring at the floor (no welded flange). I’d like to see more pics of yours.
Either way, it’s far different from the 67 version pictured. |
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Orlando76 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: May-21-2013 Location: Mount Dora, FL Status: Offline Points: 3108 |
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Useless picture but it’s all I could find at the moment. You can tell it doesn’t have the taper just below the ring. Its graduate steps are same placements and is a nominal 2.5” at the floor. ![]() |
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Following this thread for sure... john |
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KENO ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11191 |
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Um, those fat chics don't necessarily stay that way ![]() In the meantime, here's another shot of your pylon (before it was yours) showing the graduations that TRB is talking about and it looks like it might be pointing straight up. Kinda hard to tell It's in the link below, page 2 the 5th post down link PS ...................I'll work on the chic pics |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Daryn Try working on posting pictures again. Love to see the "new". |
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67 ski nat ![]() Platinum Member ![]() Joined: July-19-2018 Location: Santa rosa Status: Offline Points: 1199 |
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KENO. What’s next, pictures of all the fat chics I dated in high school
That pic of previous owners bildge is embarrassing It is all new now |
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21198 |
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Let’s see a pic todd. You’re describing a 66-67 pylon pretty well, lol. I assume you see the steps/graduations at 4” and 12” below the bottom of the ring in his picture. None of the aluminum pylons have that- just a chamfer at the top. The 73-75 pylon is smaller diameter than the 76+ (2ish vs 2.5” diameter) but both are aluminum and share the same r/f.
Ring and finger from 64-72 is the same, but different from the 73-87 style. Which does your dads 75 match? The most obvious difference is the finger, bent with a flat end on the early and straight with a round end on the later. |
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Orlando76 ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: May-21-2013 Location: Mount Dora, FL Status: Offline Points: 3108 |
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Idk, my dads ‘75 is same style. Bend appears same, not saying it is. What’s different on R&F? Same graduations in same spot. The one in my dads is definitely less common than all the others I’ve seen. The above mentioned pylon is probably the only closest match. But the material is different. |
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