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    Posted: February-11-2020 at 4:47pm
I understand original for sure, and need that input
But powder coating is superior to paint
I can not find stainless color paint, so that color is good base
I can always paint white over stainless coating like Gary S
If it does not look right I can paint white and clear
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

I painted mine silver as well but tired of it. When I redid the boat I went with the white


Yes, keep it original!


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You might want to remind "Mr Original" that there's plenty of non originality on your boat, just like there is on his Tique.
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Originally posted by Gary S Gary S wrote:

I painted mine silver as well but tired of it. When I redid the boat I went with the white


Yes, keep it original!


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I painted mine silver as well but tired of it. When I redid the boat I went with the white
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Sure most I see are white
It looked really nice in bare metal after I cleaned And sanded it
Thought a stainless color would match other metal hardware
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You do know they were originally white right?
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Thanks TRB. My pylon and finger matches the 60’s version good to know it’s original
Having it powder coated today (anodized silver aluminum). Kinda looks stainless
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:



Clear pic of the ~64-72 ring and finger from my 71:


To bring this full circle, I found a pic of the ‘75 stepped version. Very different than the 60’s stuff and I’m guessing a partial year only offering? I have seen other 75’s with the normal (full 2.5”) style used 76+. The top portion looks to match the 73-74 style before the transition to larger diameter.

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Pete and 75 tique, my non-oem bracket looks just like 75’s first one, only mine was made of angle iron and not bent like 75’s (your flat bar bent
Nice looking new one, I’m feeling better about re-fabrication of bracket now

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Originally posted by 67 ski nat 67 ski nat wrote:

Anyone else have a support bracket under floor
What holds it steady


My ski tique presumably started with the pylon just supported by the wood floor. Some previous owner put this metal support in, kind of like the one shown above. As you can see, it got bent. Pylon not bent, just this support. Not sure if I did it, but may have happened with a few four man pulls.





I tried shimming between the pylon and bent support but that never worked so I had three ideas on the table. 1- go back to all wood, like original 2 - remount this same support a little farther forward so it contacted pylon again (tho new holes so close to old holes in potentially less than super solid stringers concerned me) or 3- start fresh.

I went to a neighbor who is pretty good with such things. He said, Oh, I'll whip you up a new one, which he proceeded to do that afternoon with some stock he had laying around.




Well, I was a little concerned that that one of the four holes for the mounting screws was 16/10,000s off, but decided I could live with it.



It bolted to the stringers in 6 spots. Notice how the top support piece is not welded on but bolted on. That was so it could be removed to access the center bolts. Guy thought of everything. He's pretty handy. This other project he is working on was on the other side of his shop.

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Originally posted by 67 ski nat 67 ski nat wrote:

Good info TRB, thanks
I’ll have it made and try it, test fit

What made?


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Good info TRB, thanks
I’ll have it made and try it, test fit
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Originally posted by 67 ski nat 67 ski nat wrote:

Anyone else have a support bracket under floor
What holds it steady

No, cc didn’t add any stringer clamping system until the aluminum engine cradle came in ‘80.


Correct. The pylon was mounted from the factory with the pin and socket at the keel and then at the floor with a hole through it and typically a 2x spanning the main stringers. No metal except the beauty ring. The dealer install was pretty simple. The socket at the keel many times was already glassed in from the factory so it was just hole saw at the floor, insert the pylon and screw down the beauty ring.

Daryn,
I suspect that camp that had your boat damaged the 2x at the floor and then added the angle between the stringers.


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Originally posted by 67 ski nat 67 ski nat wrote:

Anyone else have a support bracket under floor
What holds it steady

No, cc didn’t add any stringer clamping system until the aluminum engine cradle came in ‘80.
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The pass through at the floor is what normally holds the pylon in place. Some have added a welded flange to clamp the floor more tightly (this is what cc did on the ~75-79 SN.
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Yes that link looks just like mine, had it straightened yesterday
Will post some pics of new floor, bildge pump and pole when done
Nearly All foam has been removed from boat, pretty clean now
This pylon detail was good conversation to have.
Pete do I have permission to refab that bracket, seems necessary
Otherwise only pin holds pylon from moving, wobbly??
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Clear pic of the ~64-72 ring and finger from my 71:

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Originally posted by quinner quinner wrote:

Originally posted by KENO KENO wrote:


It's in the link below, page 2 the 5th post down

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PS ...................I'll work on the chic pics


Hah Ken, a few more posts down is my Blue Classic bought from Jake :)

Wonder how my pole is, I know I pull from it A LOT, sometimes even push!


Does your pole "telescope" like the link below?

It must have been optional

But it is a good picture of a 67 pylon

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It's in the link below, page 2 the 5th post down

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It looks like a normal 73-75 pylon to me... later r/f, aluminum construction and just the chamfer at the top. If you’re saying it has an additional step/graduation somewhere along its length and is 2.5” at the base then that’s something I haven’t seen before. All 73-75 I’ve encountered look like yours and remain ~2” for the full length. Beauty ring at the floor (no welded flange). I’d like to see more pics of yours.

Either way, it’s far different from the 67 version pictured.
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Let’s see a pic todd. You’re describing a 66-67 pylon pretty well, lol. I assume you see the steps/graduations at 4” and 12” below the bottom of the ring in his picture. None of the aluminum pylons have that- just a chamfer at the top. The 73-75 pylon is smaller diameter than the 76+ (2ish vs 2.5” diameter) but both are aluminum and share the same r/f.

Ring and finger from 64-72 is the same, but different from the 73-87 style. Which does your dads 75 match? The most obvious difference is the finger, bent with a flat end on the early and straight with a round end on the later.


Useless picture but it’s all I could find at the moment. You can tell it doesn’t have the taper just below the ring. Its graduate steps are same placements and is a nominal 2.5” at the floor.

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KENO. What’s next, pictures of all the fat chics I dated in high school
That pic of previous owners bildge is embarrassing
It is all new now


Um, those fat chics don't necessarily stay that way

In the meantime, here's another shot of your pylon (before it was yours) showing the graduations that TRB is talking about and it looks like it might be pointing straight up. Kinda hard to tell

It's in the link below, page 2 the 5th post down

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KENO. What’s next, pictures of all the fat chics I dated in high school
That pic of previous owners bildge is embarrassing
It is all new now

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Let’s see a pic todd. You’re describing a 66-67 pylon pretty well, lol. I assume you see the steps/graduations at 4” and 12” below the bottom of the ring in his picture. None of the aluminum pylons have that- just a chamfer at the top. The 73-75 pylon is smaller diameter than the 76+ (2ish vs 2.5” diameter) but both are aluminum and share the same r/f.

Ring and finger from 64-72 is the same, but different from the 73-87 style. Which does your dads 75 match? The most obvious difference is the finger, bent with a flat end on the early and straight with a round end on the later.
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Originally posted by Orlando76 Orlando76 wrote:

Identical to dads ‘75

No no, look closely- very different in every way. Diameter might be close but it’s a different material and style- both base and r/f.


Idk, my dads ‘75 is same style. Bend appears same, not saying it is. What’s different on R&F? Same graduations in same spot. The one in my dads is definitely less common than all the others I’ve seen. The above mentioned pylon is probably the only closest match. But the material is different.
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