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    Posted: September-30-2020 at 11:29am
When I was young, my uncle had a 73 Martinique with a Holman Moody 302 at their home at White Lake, NC.  He got rid of the boat around 1982 without me having knowledge of the event. However, it had no trailer and I was going to college the next year. Probably not the best time for me to get a boat. He gave the boat to White Lake Marine because it had a bad starter.  Then purchased a used 76 Martinique and his wife gave it back to White Lake Marine in the 1997 upon my uncles death. At his funeral, I learned the second Martinique was gone. 

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Beardo73,
I was told on CCF that this was or is your boat?
https://www.boattrader.com/boat/1988-correct-craft-martinique-7588169/
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You guys have a great resource here, live on this forum- Art Cozier . While he might not have the access he used to, he was there when these were being built. The stereotype of forgetting more than any of us ever knew fits and as many of us who have attended Florida get togethers know an interesting person to talk to. PM him with this thread ask him his thoughts......

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Okay, sorry, I was focused on the "big" Martiniques. CC made Martiniques back to the early 70's. If not mistaken, they were basically a Ski Nautique hull with a different deck, and seating configuration. Then, probabably in the mid-late 70's, the Martinique name went away. But, the original Martinique was based on the small, nimble, flat-bottomed SN.

On the Southwind, I think that name was around from around '69-'70 time frame. However, before that, it was the Freeport, which was around from the mid-late 60's, and was part of CC's "Soft Ride" series of boats, meaning deep-vee hulls vs. the smaller flat bottom hulls such as the Mustang, or Barracuda based hulls.

Eventually, from my understanding, the Freeport name went awayand the boats were then called the Southwinds, which were made in several different flavors.....ie....18" closed bows, and 20' closed and open bows. I think around '79/'80, they did away with the 18', and 20' closed bow models only leaving the 20' open bow/bow rider.

The 20' SW open bow was in the line up through '85. In '86, CC replaced the SW with the "big" Martinique, which had the same basic hull shape (deep vee) below the water line. This version of the Martinique was around through '89, in a few different versions (closed bow, open bow, cuddy, etc.), with different names for each version.

In '89, CC introduced the Sport Nautique, which would be the new future for open bow boats for the next several years. I think CC was looking for something sportier, and a better ski boat than the Martinique could be, so the Sport Nautique it was. The first gen Sport had the deep footwell in the bow section, as well as a molded in swim platform. In '93, the Sport changed again with a playpen bow section, bolt on swim platform, etc.

But, along the way, the original Freeport deep vee hull configuration would be the basis for the Southwind, Martinique, Barefoot, and Dominique. That Barefoot hull version lasted into the early-mid 90's, and the Excel was also based on that same deep vee hull configuration as well. There were probably tweaks along the way, but it was the same basic hull under the water line. I am going from memory on all this (and the memory ain't what it used to be), but, it should all be in the Reference section of this site.

Edit: Oh, forgot to mention there was a Martinique in the early-mid 80's as well, which was a completely different boat, but I think it did have a version of the deep vee hull, but, it was more of a luxury cruiser with a closed bow.
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Originally posted by Orlando76 Orlando76 wrote:


Keep in mind the name “Martinique” has been used on other much different hulls in previous years. The Martinique in question was built 86-89.

True true true true. Great point. I tend to get more interested in answering the very specific question in the Correct Craft nerd way (such as I am) and make assumptions about his intent that I shouldn't. Because he typed one sentence, wasn't all that specific. You're saying he meant that hull type -- which if true is a very good point.
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Doubt production numbers on the MQ were that high, betting it was well less than half of the SN numbers.

The MQ name was used on several different hulls, of varying design. The last iteration was the only one not borrowed from another model. Not exactly a smooth, well planned transition from generation to generation, they were pretty different boats made for different purposes that just happened to share a name IMHO.
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Originally posted by Southvvind Southvvind wrote:

Originally posted by davidg davidg wrote:

The Martinique was made from '86-'89, and was the replacement for the Southwind, of which I have had two ('83, and a '76).

They made them for quite a bit longer than that. Maybe even double that time range - I like the Martinique all the way back to 1983.It wasn't really a direct replacement for the Southwind, was it? They usually blur the lines quite a bit more than just whole-cloth replacing something. There are years that San Juan, Dominique, Cuddy Nautique and Martinique were all made within the same year. He was looking for production numbers in a specific year, and my guess was 400-600 Martiniques for the year he indicated.


Keep in mind the name “Martinique” has been used on other much different hulls in previous years. The Martinique in question was built 86-89.
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Originally posted by davidg davidg wrote:

The Martinique was made from '86-'89, and was the replacement for the Southwind, of which I have had two ('83, and a '76).

They made them for quite a bit longer than that. Back to the mid 70's. One of my favorite Martinique designs is the 1983 Martinique. It wasn't really a direct replacement for the Southwind, was it? They usually blur the lines quite a bit more than just whole-cloth replacing something. There are years that San Juan, Dominique, Cuddy Nautique and Martinique were all made within the same year. He was looking for production numbers in a specific year, and my guess was 400-600 Martiniques for the year he indicated.
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The Martinique was made from '86-'89, and was the replacement for the Southwind, of which I have had two ('83, and a '76). I have never owned a non-deep vee hull CC. The deep vee's have been great for the typical larger, busy lakes around here and for getting a few more people in comfortably. The hull handles the rougher waters very well.

I have also owned two Martiniques (both '87's), including my current one. Just got done running a new fuel line in the boat this weekend. Not a fun or easy job. But, she is ready to go for the season. Thinking about a new bimini top for it (and a new bolt for the license plate). Overall, I have been very happy with the Martiniques. Lots of room for the family, storage space, and beautiful teak wood trim.

In terms of production numbers, I would guess that '87 may may have been the highest production year, but, not sure. That's what I see for sale most of the time, or in the diaries. You guys may know for sure.



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Will you allow educated guesses?
Perhaps 500 Martiniques in 1988. Not sure of closed bow vs open bow.
Relevant facts:
- they were ramping down on Dominiques due to the limitations of the interior
- they were prototyping longer-hull SN2001's, aka Sport Nautiques and even 2001-hull open bow variants which never worked out; they never saw the light of day outside their test facility
- they were beginning to think about the Excel V-drive, or a Barefoot Nautique with a v-drive, which is how it all started. They knew the 454 options had potential.
- they knew open bow in almost every model was in their near future, and knew they sold better too, which is why my guess isn't like, 250. They needed a Nerf'ed interior on a high-performing hull. AKA the Sport Nautique coming to prominence.

I don't know for sure but I don't believe the Martinique in any flavor was super popular for them at the time. The closed hull Martinique, especially older ones are beautiful. Now, with hindsight we know they're great. Great hull, I've been talking about them as a wakeboarding platform for decade. But back then, not so much of this could be known. People liked little nimble ProStars and Ski Nautiques that looked cool. At the time, Martiniques looked like bathtubs. Just like the Super Sport hull and we all watched how that "bath tub" evolved to become one of the best wakeboarding hulls ever made - right up to today.

Cross reference the data on this thread: http://www.correctcraftfan.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=12482&title=number-of-2001-ski-nautiques-made

My best guess is that they made 400-600 variously configured Martiniques in 1988.
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Does anyone out there know how many Martinique boats were made in 1988? I'd also love to know how many B/R's were manufactured too. I'm sure those stats alone are hard to find, but how many came with a 454 power plant? Having a hard time finding many comparable boats out there.

Thanks for any and all insight!
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