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KENO 
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 Topic: Stiff SteeringPosted: June-23-2021 at 6:28am |
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Glad it's out, Sometimes you just have to outthink the steering cable
Good job getting it out
I think your KEYBOARD needs a LITTLE attention, it seems to randomly YELL some WORDS!!!  Only YOU know what you bought for a NEW cable and HELM so it's kinda hard to give any comments that might HELP PS........... I see that you started a new thread on this so to avoid confusion, there's no need to continue in this thread. |
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jerryhobgood
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Posted: June-22-2021 at 6:32pm |
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Thanks for all the input as I was able to temporarily reconnect the rack and pinion w/ two bolts, turn the steering wheel until the last portion of the steering rod was at it's SHORTEST LENGTH. Then I was able to easily return the remaining short section which had heretofore been STUCK!!!
They should instruct one to shorten that rod by turning steering wheel as an EARLY STEP!!! Now to install NEW Seastar cable and back mount rack. Any video/comments??? Thanks J
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Posted: June-20-2021 at 7:59pm |
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And THAT will be my fall back method IF I can't shorten the steel rod by "adjusting" the rack and pinion. BTW it is currently laying in the middle of my boat! Removing the Rack and Pinion was the FIRST thing I did!
I am also installing a NEW cable which was recommended by Nautique. |
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Posted: June-20-2021 at 2:22pm |
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Yes you are right. I am car guy doing boat stuff and don't know water words so well. I pulled the old one out by the hole where the clutch pedal is supposed to be. When I got to the rod and realized that it wasn't fully retracted I just did what any man would do and got a cutoff wheel.
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KENO
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Posted: June-20-2021 at 1:47pm |
Well, this is confusing, you say to pull out by the stern, but it sure sounds like you pulled it out up at the front by the helm
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Posted: June-20-2021 at 11:52am |
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I just buttoned it up last night and took it out. It was like butter. I also changed the helm pinion to one that was recommended that has a wider tooth.
Lesson's. Because of the rack being attached pull out by the stern. Tie a rope for reinstall. I just cut that large nut on the stern end so it wouldn't catch inside. When I got the cable out to the point the extended rod was up at the helm floor hole I just cut it with a grinder instead of fighting with it. The new cable was fully retracted so it went in easy.
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Posted: June-19-2021 at 8:34pm |
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Keno,
Thanks and those are great ideas. I hope the old rack and pinion box is not too difficult to get into!!! J |
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KENO
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Posted: June-19-2021 at 8:30pm |
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Did you turn the steering wheel all the way in the direction that makes that long steel rod as short as it can be?
One way, the rod will be fully extended and the other way it will be fully retracted. That can make a difference in fitting through the hole. Since things are already apart, you can pull the rack as far out of the cable sheath as you can to make the back end be fully retracted
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Posted: June-19-2021 at 8:18pm |
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It's the long steel rod which connects to the rudder that is my problem, as it DOES NOT BEND! I did not describe correctly on my email.
But I have everything pulled thru the helm hole in floor except for that FINAL 8-12 inches of steel ROD!!! Can you offer a solution, as I have been considering cutting a larger hole in fiberglass hole OR cutting the OLD cable. I do not want to cut fiberglass nor cable if possible. Thanks for ANY solution whivh may not involve cutting. Jerry |
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KENO
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Posted: June-19-2021 at 7:50pm |
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If your cable rack is stuck then it must not be easier
A rack and pinion is usually easier coming out the front like mentioned previously because of that rack. If you have a rotary cable, it's generally easier to pull it out the back Bacco has a rack system and so do you so pull it out the front to make life easier.
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Posted: June-19-2021 at 7:32pm |
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Isn't it better to pull the old steering cable from the stern of the boat, rather than the helm? My cable is stuck at the small hole under the dash due to the large size of the rack and pinion at the every end of the old cable. And it's very tight and inflexible due to limited space to work cable completely out.
It was suggested to try and pull old cable completely back through towards the stern and follow same logic in pulling new cable in, likewise. I have an open bow '97 Sport. Thx Jerry PS Penty of duct tape used to avoid hang up.
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Posted: June-12-2021 at 7:36pm |
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thank you!
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KENO
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Posted: June-12-2021 at 6:42pm |
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Bacco Here's a link to a thread with some detailed instructions for a 99 Sport. Not the same hull as your 97 Sport but close enough and both have rack type steering. Some steps may not apply but you'll get the idea on hooking up a rope, which way to pull the cable, and then put the new one in using that rope Thank Samudj01 for taking the time to write the post |
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Posted: June-12-2021 at 6:20pm |
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I have the new cable and took apart as much as I could for access. The one area not visible is where the cable goes into the floor behind the foot plate then comes out in the engine bilge. I don't know what the path looks like in there. What is the best way to install the cable? top down? bottom up? fish something through to pull it through?
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Posted: May-21-2021 at 9:03pm |
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Posted: May-21-2021 at 9:01pm |
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The rudder is holding up well in it's new job...holding mulch in place.
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KENO
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Posted: May-20-2021 at 5:11pm |
Darn tootin' you are How's that rudder holding up?
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Posted: May-20-2021 at 4:59pm |
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I am right sexy.
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KENO
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Posted: May-20-2021 at 4:55pm |
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But Bacco, there's another theory..........maybe you're the one making the cable stiff
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Posted: May-20-2021 at 11:20am |
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My wife said she thinks she knows what it is . To quote her. "The steering is stiff because she was on the boat" Then she said "Do you get it, see what I did there?"
So I tested her theory and threw her overboard. The steering was still stiff, so that wasn't it. So I'm going to go with your cable theory. I just ordered one and a new rack for under the dash. |
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Posted: May-20-2021 at 11:16am |
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I’ll bet you a dozen Dunkin’ Doughnuts that your steering cable needs to be replaced. Some rudder shafts have a grease zerk fitting, but as Pete recommends, disconnect the arm from the cable and see if you can manipulate the rudder by hand. Then see what the steering feels like with the rudder disconnected from the cable. If the rudder moves readily by hand and the disconnected cable is still stiff, then the cable is likely the culprit.
JQ
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Posted: May-19-2021 at 8:20pm |
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Are there lubrication points or other maintenance items I should be doing for it in general?
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Posted: May-19-2021 at 7:10pm |
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Adam,
Disconnecting the steering cable at the tiller arm will tell you if the problem is or isn't in the rudder. You can do the same for the helm but, I'd say chances are high that it's the cable.
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Posted: May-19-2021 at 7:07pm |
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My '97 Sport Nautique just got launched for the season. I steering is horribly stiff. It was showing signs of that last year. I imagine it is mostly original hardware. Before I go and pull things apart and try to figure out where to start I am looking for some council.
Are there common tune up lube operations I should do (or have been doing)? Are there parts I should just replace because it is an older system? Like the cable? If it is really 20+ years old does it just make sense to start things off by replacing it? Seals? Thanks in advance.
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