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winniskier
Senior Member Joined: March-15-2008 Location: Gilford, NH Status: Offline Points: 193 |
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Posted: June-04-2023 at 5:46am |
Here is a picture of the boat pulling a skier in NH on 12/31/22.
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winniskier
Senior Member Joined: March-15-2008 Location: Gilford, NH Status: Offline Points: 193 |
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Seems you can see the list if you look hard enough!
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Jim
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KENO
Grand Poobah Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11112 |
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Check out those registration numbers I guess he buffed out the list....or not It still shows up in the pictures And the price just keeps going up and up link to the ad |
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KENO
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KENO
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That's a New Hampsha' boat wash
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NCH20SKIER
Grand Poobah Joined: December-16-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2207 |
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Boat shows well in the picture - especially uncovered in the rain.
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'05 206 Limited
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MrMcD
Grand Poobah Joined: January-28-2014 Location: Folsom, CA Status: Offline Points: 3750 |
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At 11K I think it is a very good buy. You just don't find those hulls at affordable prices.
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bwinn
Senior Member Joined: July-13-2009 Location: ct Status: Offline Points: 396 |
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Thanks for the follow up Tim
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TRBenj
Grand Poobah Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21186 |
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I contacted the seller and he confirmed it is the same boat (duh) and confirmed the list/lean when asked. Also said he’d resell at $11k if I were interested (I am not).
So only moderately shady for an unsuspecting buyer. |
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KENO
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TRBenj
Grand Poobah Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21186 |
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And now it’s back up for 15k with no mention of the lean?
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/207828538622590/?mibextid=6ojiHh |
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KENO
Grand Poobah Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11112 |
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Carnac tells me the boat showed up on FB marketplace and disappeared shortly after that.
It was there yesterday and gone today
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bwinn
Senior Member Joined: July-13-2009 Location: ct Status: Offline Points: 396 |
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New owner?
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Faceplant
Senior Member Joined: July-27-2013 Location: Otter Lake , Mi Status: Offline Points: 417 |
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I was very proud of myself. Made a delivery in the area this past Wednesday and I didn't go to see it. Customers sort of frown at you when you show up in a semi. Ask me how I know. Told my wife what I didn't do when I got home. She patted me on the head and said " good boy - good boy " . I've picked up enough stuff from across the country. Seems like a good price though.
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Feels like I am hanging 10 but in reality - probably hanging 6.
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KENO
Grand Poobah Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11112 |
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Well Carnac is obviously slipping a little since the boat still seems to be available link to the ad on Craig's List Maybe since ice out was declared on Winnipesaukee, a test ride will sell it Bring some weight to balance the boat
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KENO
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Bad cooler would be the most likely thing unless you submerge.it Even then, the dipstick or the vent/relief valve would need to leak.
The vent/relief is a check valve and water won't flow into the transmission through there unless it leaks.
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MrMcD
Grand Poobah Joined: January-28-2014 Location: Folsom, CA Status: Offline Points: 3750 |
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Would that be from a bad tanny cooler Ken? Got me thinking about upgrades.
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KENO
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I think that if you ask PCM the new "affordable option" is the 80A/80I. Getting water in the 40 series seems to be the biggest killer |
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MrMcD
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Thanks for explaining. Extra good reason for regular oil changes in the tranny of the 40 series I guess. Are the failures related to hours used or hard use/abuse? I hope a new affordable option pops up as there are so many of these boats on the water.
There are a ton of old Malibu and other ski boats out there with the 1:1 tranny’s but it would be a shame to change over from the Nautique power train. I have a buddy selling his old Malibu today, he has not started it in 5 years but is selling the boat for $1500 with the 351W and tranny still in good shape. Sounds like just the Powertrain has more value than he is selling for. His interior is shot and the gel coat is faded but boat and trailer with a good Powertrain for $1500 seems cheap.
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Fl Inboards
Grand Poobah Joined: January-20-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2119 |
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PCM no longer supports this model and the unit was propriety to PCM. the major failure in these are cracked clutch disk drums or sealing drum rings that walk out of the groove and tear up the groove. replacement drums have not been available for nearly 10 years now or more. they are not really friendly for rebuilding in the best conditions as there are a couple specialized tools for these units. now Clutch disks are unavailable as well as other small items for that unit. I had and have a number of them (cores) that i pulled down trying to rebuild 1 out of the four i took apart there were not enough good parts to rebuild.... Cracked drums all. bottom line is the only people with replacement parts are far and few in between. also the 40 series is a bit more complicated then the borg 71/72 units as well the newer 80 series resembles the borg in many ways, Having not been into one yet , though i would wager a lot of the parts that go into the 72C may also work in the 80???
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Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.
1993 Shamrock "fat" 20. 2008 Nautique 196 5.0 |
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MrMcD
Grand Poobah Joined: January-28-2014 Location: Folsom, CA Status: Offline Points: 3750 |
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I would have to ask, why are they not rebuilt? Are parts available these are pretty simple transmissions I don’t understand why they are not rebuilt unless the aluminum case is being destroyed when a bearing fails but even that could be machined for a repair sleeve for reasonable money?
I say this since I am currently rebuilding a GM 6L80 6 speed automatic and all parts are available same day locally for about $1500 and it is far more complicated than the boat transmissions.
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Fl Inboards
Grand Poobah Joined: January-20-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2119 |
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Keno, Yea I just called in an order for a new 80 kit. my price significantly higher then the one sitting on my floor ordered about 3 months ago. $700 higher!! DIM wants $3900.00 retail.. So in three months they have jacked up the price $700, in over a year $1000.00! One of the big things that have changed is availability of these units.. they are now stocking them.. no more 9-6 week wait.
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Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.
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KENO
Grand Poobah Joined: June-06-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 11112 |
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So what transmission sells for 2500 bucks to go with the new engine ?
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63 Skier
Grand Poobah Joined: October-06-2006 Location: Concord, NH Status: Offline Points: 4269 |
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Thanks for the info, interesting. With the price of boats these days a repower makes more sense than ever.
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'63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique
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Fl Inboards
Grand Poobah Joined: January-20-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2119 |
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David, A new 6.0 non cat bobtail sitting on my floor with all the adapter mounts and electrical adapter plus shipping and tax is near the $13 K range. HP is 409. i also highly recommend replacing the transmission at the same time. another $2500. Zero off is $1600.00 getting started on a 94 Sport, total budget $35K includes new engine and transmission, All cables as well as all underwater gear serviced , new gauges including zero off. bottom clean as well as hull detail and complete interior and sea-deck.. I think the boat was a family hand me down, so 0 cost to the owner for the roller..
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Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.
1993 Shamrock "fat" 20. 2008 Nautique 196 5.0 |
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MourningWood
Gold Member Joined: June-13-2014 Location: NorCal Status: Offline Points: 917 |
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Same mold? Bought a year-old '95 with same 1/2" stbd. lean. (at speed) My then relationship w/ Correct Craft got boat on the water during '97 AWSA certification tests at Folsom Lake, Ca. They confirmed the lean and then added a 'wedge' (slight hook) to the starboard aft hull at transom. Solved.
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1964 Dunphy X-55 "One 'N Dun"
'I measured twice, cut three times, and it's still too short!" |
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63 Skier
Grand Poobah Joined: October-06-2006 Location: Concord, NH Status: Offline Points: 4269 |
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Jody, what's a 6.0 re-power cost these days, just ballpark number? And what's the HP rating of the 6.0 drop in?
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'63 American Skier - '98 Sport Nautique
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Fl Inboards
Grand Poobah Joined: January-20-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2119 |
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We carry 75 pounds under the passenger seat of a 2017 -200 CB, only take it out if there are two big persons (200 plus} in the passenger seating. or it goes in the back for tricks. the last year or so of the slant back as well as the first couple years of the bubble butt. many of our promo as well as factory team boats needed 40 pounds no matter what, stuffed in the cavity under the drivers seat. Today, go to an event, competition (whatever they want to call it theses day's). one will find lead ballast bags as well as boats with water tanks for level as well as electronic wake enhancing that can be tailored to change the wake configuration at the touch of a button. the boat up for sale is a great deal and would make a perfect candidate for a 6.0 re-power as well as ZO update and overall refresh..
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Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.
1993 Shamrock "fat" 20. 2008 Nautique 196 5.0 |
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GottaSki
Grand Poobah Joined: April-21-2005 Location: NE CT Status: Offline Points: 3363 |
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Ive left the floor in place and extracted all the foam out with just some (11) 5" hole saws, then reglassed the holes, leveled, added some more ply everywhere. will never get soggy again.
putting foam back is one's user discretion
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"There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing."
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Fl Inboards
Grand Poobah Joined: January-20-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2119 |
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We carry 75 pounds under the passenger seat of a 2017 -200 CB, only take it out if there are two big persons (200 plus} in the passenger seating. or it goes in the back for tricks. the last year or so of the slant back as well as the first couple years of the bubble butt. many of our promo as well as factory team boats needed 40 pounds no matter what, stuffed in the cavity under the drivers seat. Today, go to an event, competition (whatever they want to call it theses day's). one will find lead ballast bags as well as boats with water tanks for level as well as electronic wake enhancing that can be tailored to change the wake configuration at the touch of a button. the boat up for sale is a great deal and would make a perfect candidate for a 6.0 re-power as well as ZO update and overall refresh..
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Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.
1993 Shamrock "fat" 20. 2008 Nautique 196 5.0 |
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