1976 Martinique-intro and some questions |
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Tomrupp
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Posted: August-23-2023 at 12:21pm |
Nice pic Ken. It could be the same boat. The aftermarket platform fit looks great. Clean and oil that teak!
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Tom
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KENO
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markdtn
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Couple photos. Wires do appear to be brown, wish I could get a wiring diagram for an Escort. A view of the Escort tag. A view of the swim platform. Definitely needs some teak oil.
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markdtn
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Interesting on the swim platform. It is teak and really looks like it has always been there. I will have to get some pictures to add.
Probably right on the resistance wire. That is also the way GM did it. It definitely does not have that ceramic resistor. It also has the earlier style Ford starter relay. Pretty sure my wires I mentioned are brown. I'll look again tonight to be sure. Thanks!
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KENO
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You bet it was Maybe the Escort used a resistance wire like Ford cars did and it buried in the harness. Are you sure those Brown wires aren't Red wires with 47 years of aging making them look Brown. Here's a picture of the type resistor PCM used mounted on the back of the engine. White ceramic housing with the resistor inside. One other thing, somebody put the platform on sometime over the years, they weren't available either standard or as a factory option in 76 And another thing, you mentioned the engine tag and South Carolina being on it...........Escorts were made in Columbia SC.before PCM took them over |
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markdtn
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Thank you very much for the info. That is very helpful. I may buy another distributor cap just to have one, but the one I took off I suppose is an OK spare. It was running and only had 287 hours on it. I hate to go untaping wires to find that resistor. I know it must have one because they used the "I" terminal and it is different voltage. Just FYI my start wire is white and the wire from "I" and at the coil and choke is brown. I had never noticed the higher voltage at the coil because it just ran, so now I want it to be right or at least understand the ignition system better. I consider myself to be very strong on maintenance, I believe good maintenance is the key to long life of any machine.
Perhaps a bit more explanation is in order. I bought the boat about a year and a half
before my oldest son was born in 1998 and then another in 2000. My parents have a house on Lake Martin in
Alabama so I have always had a good place to boat. When I bought it, they had a pontoon and a tri-hull
Glastron with a 75 Suzuki. I wanted
something a bit more powerful of my own and found this one. We were living in Tennessee near Nashville. So we enjoyed the boat here in Tennessee on
Percy Priest lake and once a year took it to Alabama on Lake Martin (the only
times I know of that it lived in the water outside overnight). In about 2004 my sister and her husband bought a 1998
Mastercraft MariStar and it got a lift at the parents place so I didn’t need to
drive mine down each year. In 2005 we
moved from Nashville area to the Chattanooga area. Chickamauga Lake is never smooth and there are lots of fishermen. There may be other lakes around that are smoother but I can
be in the water in less than 20 minutes from my front door so it is convenient. We liked to go out on Thursday afternoons as
a family but the water was always choppy.
If you can be in the water by 7:00-8:00 on a Saturday it is tolerable
for a couple hours, but never smooth like Lake Martin is. So the kids grew, the water here was less
than ideal and thus when the carburetor had issues it was just not a high priority. Now the kids are gone, no grandkids yet. I bought a Waverunner to go get wet when I
want to. If I kneeboard 2-3 times in a
Summer now that is good enough for me. I
don’t know if it is worth keeping the boat or time to let it go. It is not eating anything but it does take up
some prime space. Maybe that helps
define where I am better. Edit-great tip on the OMC Mallory cap! Ordered one for $15 |
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KENO
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1) Escort engine, only around a few years, bought by PCM and discontinued shortly after that
2) If you want a Mallory cap look on Ebay for an OMC 982209 cap. There are most always some and they're a repackaged Mallory 209D and they're a lot cheaper than what's in a Mallory box. No help on the plug wires 3 )No Escort specific wiring diagrams around, but you may have to do some untaping of the harness to follow that wire backwards 4)Same hull with differences like you mentioned. SN had 2 tracking fins, Martinique may have had none. Edit....it had no fins 5) We'll let somebody else answer that Here's a PCM wiring diagram from that time period that's close anyways. PCM didn't use the I terminal in their wiring setup. |
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markdtn
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I have a 1976 Martinique.
I have owned it since December of 1996.
Bought it in the dead of Winter to get a good price and just went out regularly and sat in
it that year waiting for Spring. It came with a
barefoot pole (which I have never used and I think I’m too old now). We mostly kneeboard and ski. I have a Hydroslide Pro that I bought in 1986
with my High School graduation money. I
am on my 3rd Cinch strap-the latest one is the best one yet. Anyway, I am pretty sure the boat has been
stored indoors it’s whole life. For the first 10 years I had it it was in an
enclosed garage and since 2005 it has been in a climate controlled
basement. I do not know how many hours
it has. The hourmeter didn’t work when I
got it. I put a new one in and have put
287 hours on it since I have had it.
Soon after we got it we changed the front seat so that passengers faced
backwards like most inboard boats but I kept all the original parts. Not long after 2005 we re-did the rear
seat. So the upholstery is in good shape
but doesn’t match. It has a 351 Ford that is white with cheap
chrome valve covers-and that is part of one of my questions. When I got it the carburetor was bad (I think
the boat sat several years before I got it) and I sent it to Holley for a
rebuild. I also replaced the fuel pump
at that time. Over the years I have
replaced the alternator, raw water pump then impellers every other year, throttle cable,
steering cable, exhaust hoses, fuel line, shaft packing a few times, tuneup
parts-just basics. It has always made it
back to the dock on it’s own. Still has the
original blower that works fine.
Original Tach and I have the original Teleflex speedometer but it
currently has a newer Teleflex speedo that is easier to read at slower speeds. All the other engine gauges were dead when I
got it so it got Stewart-Warner marine gauges with a floatless ISSPRO fuel
level sensor. Engine runs strong and
has good oil pressure. About 6-7 years
ago it had carburetor problems again and I pulled it and built it but never got
it put back on until about a month ago I got it running again and a week ago
actually took people out again. The fuel
pump had some gas in the clear overflow line to the carb when I got back to the
dock so I replaced it yesterday with a new Carter marine pump (opposite fuel line-whatever). I have been thinking about selling it, but
I’ll never have another so leaning towards keeping it still even though I would
like to have the space. My sister has a
1998 Mastercraft MariStar V-drive with the “Corvette LT1” but I would rather
have this boat any day. It is rock solid
in the water. Correct Craft definitely
knew how to build a boat. I have a few
questions that I am hoping someone can help me with. 1-Who marinized the engine?
Right after I bought the boat I joined the Correct Craft Owners club and
got some information on the engine but I don’t remember the answer. I seem to have lost that packet when we moved
in 2005. It seems to me that they said
it was definitely original to the boat. It has a tag with a good readable stamped
model and serial number but much of the printing on the left side of the tag is
gone. I can read on top “DR” and
“Engine” and at the bottom “ociates
incorporated” and “South Carolina”.
Pretty sure there was something before the “DR” and “engine” could possibly
be part of engineering? PCM is in South
Carolina now but appears to have started in 1975 in Ohio-so is this a
predecessor to PCM? It’s not a Crusader,
OMC, or Indmar. Is it an Escort? I can’t find very much at all on the internet about them. 2-I wanted a points and tuneup kit. I think I needed PCM p/n RP173024 but it says
“Prestolite-Mallory”. I definitely have
a Mallory YL554FV distributor. It has
clips with ears that have screw down tabs on them. Is that the right kit? I ended up ordering individual
OEM parts from Holley/Mallory. They were
USA made points and rotor but the cap was made offshore. How about plug wires? I don’t think PCM wires will be the right length. The first set I bought when I got the boat
was for a 289 Mustang but they were really tight.
It has Moroso Blue Max wires on it now.
I kind of remember using a Chevy 454 as a reference because of how the wet
manifolds are but they are not perfect.
Maybe a Ford 460 is a better reference?
I do not want to cut anything.
Anybody have a good out-of-the box application recommendation for plug
wires? 3-Where would the ballast resistor to the coil be located? I don’t see one but it does have a wire from
the “I” terminal on the starter solenoid to the “+” side of the coil so there
is one somewhere. I have 11V to the coil
all the time with ignition on (seems high to me?) and 13V when starting. At the coil there is only 1 brown wire to the
+ side of the coil. It does connect with
the “I” terminal at the starter solenoid so it splices in somewhere to the
ignition wire. Maybe a better question
would be is there a wiring diagram available? 4-It is hard to find much information on the Martinique. In later years it was bigger but mine seems
to be like a Nautique with a different dash and a swim platform. Is the 1976 Martinique the same hull as a
Nautique? 5-If I was to sell it, is it worth anything? Since it is not a Nautique is there any
demand? It had a tandem Correct Craft
trailer when I got it but it broke an axle and I never liked the tiny
tires. In about 2000 I had a tandem axle
double bunk trailer made for it with a cage around the prop and 15” tires. So it has a pretty nice trailer but it’s not
original. Boat overall is very solid and
everything works, but it is showing some age-needs carpet, interior doesn’t
match, etc.-it’s definitely not a new boat but has been extremely reliable. Thanks! |
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