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EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO THEIR OWN OPINION

> NEW PREAMBLE TO THE CONSTITUTION
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> This is probably the best e-mail I've seen in a long, long time. The following
has been attributed to State Representative Mitchell Kaye from GA. This guy
should run for President one day...
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> "We the sensible people of the United States, in an attempt to help everyone
get along, restore some semblance of justice, avoid more riots, keep our nation
safe, promote positive behavior, and secure the blessings of debt-free liberty
to ourselves and our great-great-great-grandchildren, hereby try one more time
to ordain and establish some common sense guidelines for the terminally whiny,
guilt ridden, delusional, and other liberal bed-wetters. We hold these truths to
be self evident: that a whole lot of people are confused by the Bill of Rights
and are so dim they require a Bill of NON-Rights."
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> ARTICLE I: You do not have the right to a new car, big screen TV, or any other
form of wealth. More power to you if you can legally acquire them, but no one is
guaranteeing anything.
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> ARTICLE II: You do not have the right to never be offended. This country is
based on freedom, and that means freedom for everyone -- not just you! You may
leave the room, turn the channel, express a different opinion, etc.; but the
world is full of idiots, and probably always will be.
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> ARTICLE III: You do not have the right to be free from harm. If you stick a
screwdriver in your eye, learn to be more careful; do not expect the tool
manufacturer to make you and all your relatives independently wealthy.
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> ARTICLE IV: You do not have the right to free food and housing. Americans are
the most charitable people to be found, and will gladly help anyone in need, but
we are quickly growing weary of subsidizing generation after generation of
professional couch potatoes who achieve nothing more than the creation of
another generation of professional couch potatoes . (This one is my pet
peeve...get an education and go to work....don't expect everyone else to take
care of you!)
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> ARTICLE V: You do not have the right to free health care. That would be nice,
but from the looks of public housing, we're just not interested in public health
care.
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> ARTICLE VI: You do not have the right to physically harm other people. If you
kidnap, rape, intentionally maim, or kill someone, don't be surprised if the
rest of us want to see you fry in the electric chair.
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> ARTICLE VII: You do not have the right to the possessions of others. If you
rob, cheat, or coerce away the goods or services of other citizens, don't be
surprised if the rest of us get together and lock you away in a place where you
still won't have the right to a big screen color TV or a life of leisure.
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> ARTICLE VIII: You do not have the right to a job.. All of us sure want you to
have a job, and will gladly help you along in hard times, but we expect you to
take advantage of the opportunities of education and vocational training laid
before you to make yourself useful. (AMEN!)
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> ARTICLE IX: You do not have the right to happiness. Being an American means
that you have the right to PURSUE happiness, which by the way, is a lot easier
if you are unencumbered by an over abundance of idiotic laws created by those of
you who were confused by the Bill of Rights.
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> ARTICLE X: This is an English speaking country. We don't care where you are
from, English is our language. Learn it or go back to wherever you came from!
(Lastly....)
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> ARTICLE XI: You do not have the right to change our country's history or
heritage. This country was founded on the belief in one true God. And yet, you
are given the freedom to believe in any religion, any faith, or no faith at all;
with no fear of persecution. The phrase IN GOD WE TRUST is part of our heritage
and history, and if you are uncomfortable with it, TOUGH!!!! GET OVER IT!!!

taking out my dock last week and noticed several zebra mussels in our lake

Jamin, I'm on the Three Lakes or upper side (southern 20 lakes) of the 28 lake Eagle River / Three Lakes chain. I have lake front footage on two of the lakes and only one has the snails so it was interesting to hear your comment. They really aren't what I would call a problem but have just noticed more shells in recent years. Who were the PH.D students doing the study for? Next summer, bring your ski!!

To whom it may concern;
Seems I have stuck my foot in my mouth again,and to those I offended , I sincerely apologize.I first stated this was a touchy subject with me, and should have kept my Red Neck opinion close by............
This forum should not be used by me nor anyone else for the spread of anything but Positive info and the love of these boats and motors.Again please accept my apologies.

Jamin, Tell me more about the snails. In recent years I've noticed more of them on one of the lakes I'm on (northern Wisconsin). they are anywhere from a nickle to a silver dollar is size.

We did have a issue with the rusty crayfish but that was maybe 20 years ago and they have pretty much gone away. They were even trapping them at one time and shipping them south for cajun cooking.

No zebras yet but they seem to come in from larger lakes in the bilges of larger boats. It's unusual to see a boat longer than 24' on our chain.

I agree with M3 that this forum is not an appropriate place for racism. BKH

Aquatic invasives are very interesting. We have them in our lake (~375 acres), both milfoil and zebra mussels. Like Quinner said our milfoil seems to change from year to year, and the lake associate devotes almost their entire annual budget to treating it during the summer. The mussels were really bad when my parents bought their place six years ago, covering anything that was hard and big enough for them to hold on to. Today they are still around, but not nearly as big a problem.

This past summer I worked as a field tech in N.WI for a group of Ph.D. students studying AIS; rusty crayfish and mystery snails. The crayfish are particularly nasty up there. We also had to survey a bunch of lakes and there were more than a few that the weeds made it almost impossible to get our outboard-powered jonboat around the lake. WI is also suffering from a VHS (Viral Hemorrhagic Septicemia), a fish disease and we not only had to make sure no invasive specise clung to our boats and trailers but by the end of the summer we had to wash the boats and all of our gear in bleach too.

What seems most interesting to me is that some of invaders are simply non-native to that part of the country. I have read about northern pike, which we love around here (SW MI), being just hated where they have been introduced in CA. Similarly all of the invasive crayfish in the country are from this country, they just invade areas the haven't been before i.e. rusty crayfish from Ohio river basin to WI/MN, virile crayfish from midwest to west, etc.

Sorry for the long post, and BTW have any of your WI guys seen the Plum Lake Skiters before?

I thought that's what you ment Tull, but I wasn't sure. No, no weed problem on ford lake. I am sure there are weeds at the bottom, but most of the lake is 20-30 feet deep with a clay bottom.

Yeah we have zebra mussels too, but they stay on the bottom of the lake. As we have had no problems footing. I make sure I pull the drain plug at the lake. No sea weed to speak of though.

Milfoil is also a problem on our lake (220 acres), it has been there as long as I have, about 10yrs, generally I believe the milfoil is a greater threat in clear water, our lake association has a treatment program to control the weeds, treatments around 3-4 times a season. The milfoil is a strange weed, the intensity can vary quite a bit from year to year without any real pattern, longer freezes seem to have no effect. Neighboring lake assoc. tried using what I believe were called "weevils", a bug that consumes or controls the weed, they cost around $1 each, will reproduce and grow or also may be consumed by the fish and not take, in their case it was about a $20k failure.

Regarding the Asian Carp Alan mentioned, read an article earlier this year about guides or services who take you out to bow hunt the carp as they jump.

The Zebra muscles are all over around here as well, do not believe they are in our lake yet.

Pete- Most of the lakes around us in NE battle Milfoil.
We've tried everything, including drying and smoking the weed
If you're lucky you'll get permission to use herbacide to knock out any invasive non native weeds before they become a major issue.
The State of Maine is very strict about clean trailers- a very good practice.

There's an organization called NALMS- that you may want to check out.

-Brad

BD, just remember s--t rolls down hills too.
gooks? lets be a little more politically correct...

All the water from the North ends up here,along with all the other "STUFF" that you guy's are willing to share .
Your freezing winters have slowed down the process somewhat but "change is a comin'" Our lakes have drasticly changed also, the carp, mussels and severals types of grasses and weeds not native to Louisiana have taken a toll on the native fish and other wildlife.
The Asian carp population now about match the number of Vietnamese fishermen we have in the south. Go figure that one..........
I will take the Zebra Mussels over the Gooks any day....But that is my own opinion, and need not be spread about here........

Pete, I 've been to a few lakes that are so full of weeds I would literally need a pressure washer to get them all off the trailer. It's just about impossible. I usually drag em home and blast them off in the driveway.

How about invasive species of fish. On the Illinois south of where I boat they catch 1000's of lbs of Asian big Head Carp everyday. They've actually found some commercial use for these things. They escaped from a Mississippi fish farm during a flood and found their way into the Miss. and eventually up to the Illinois. Electric Fish nets have been installed to try to stop them before they get into Lake Michigan but it only a matter of time.

There are so many of these things that they get scared by prop noise and jump right into boats. You've probably seen this on America Funniest Home Videos, most of those happen on the Illinois near Peoria but we'll be swimming with them soon in our area and they'll destroy everything in their path

dip your hand in lake Erie, your bound to come up with a mussle on it, one advantage is they are small filters and have really cleaned the lake up, but those are the nutrients the other fish feed off of, you can actually see 20 or 30 feet down now.
These are the end result of being attached to frieghters and cargo ships from Europe,