Weeding the Pumpkin patch

Mornin' Pete! I have been busy. Amy and I are giving each other a turbo toilet for wedding presents?!!? Yes, I have a big hole in the backyard and the separator box in the drainfield is clogged among other things.

Are you picking on me or agreeing with me? I can't quite tell?!!? LOL I may be overdoing a bit, but it is my nature. Besides, I figured that even support would be a good thing. There were places on the original BH's where the ply didn't touch the hull at all.

I'm thinking of laying a length of 1" flexible tubing along each side of the center stringer to be pulled out after the foam goes in for a water channel. Will regular paste wax make a good 1-time mold release?

Besides the foam, if anyone sees a fly in my ointment...

eric lavine wrote: Bellview keeps popping in my mind

Maybe you missed an appointment?

BuffaloBFN wrote: Mornin' Pete! I have been busy. Amy and I are giving each other a turbo toilet for wedding presents?!!? Yes, I have a big hole in the backyard and the separator box in the drainfield is clogged among other things. Are you picking on me or agreeing with me? I can't quite tell?!!? LOL I may be overdoing a bit, but it is my nature. Besides, I figured that even support would be a good thing. There were places on the original BH's where the ply didn't touch the hull at all. I'm thinking of laying a length of 1" flexible tubing along each side of the center stringer to be pulled out after the foam goes in for a water channel. Will regular paste wax make a good 1-time mold release? Besides the foam, if anyone sees a fly in my ointment...

I'm picking on you and agreeing with you!!!

I like the idea of puting the tubing in so it will form a drain channel but I'm worried about getting it out of the foam. The foam is a solvent base and I feel will eat up the paste wax you are thinking of using as a mold release. I think there are some water based mold release's out there that you can use. I would also consider using some Pex tubing. The polyethylene is what glue bottles are made out of. Nothing sticks to it!! (almost nothing - there are special processes)

Even though I do like the idea, You may be going a little extream!

Greg, neat idea, but why not just leave the tube in the foam? If you use something sturdy like PEX or pvc, then there should be no need to remove it.
Just a thought.
-Brad

Brad. Greg wants to use it as a continuous drain along the length of the stringer so holes along it's lenght are needed. Sort of like a leachaid drain at the bottom of a garbage dump.

Brad, I thought about using split 1.5" pvc with relief cuts on the bottom to allow water to flow into the channel and down. Then I realized the foam would plug it up and it would be useless. I wanted to leave a piece of tubing or something in, but I can't figure a way to for water get into it that foam wouldn't plug.

If I could pull a piece of tubing out, I should have a closed cell tube left in its place.

Greg, I met a guy one time on the Niagra river and he had to show his boat to me, it was a 32 or 34 Chris and this guy installed 2x2 plexiglass trimmed out in Mahogany floors above his engine room, Chris's were known for copper and brass tubing and this guy had every piece polished perfectly. He would kick on these lights and all you seen through the floors was a couple of perfect 427's, this guy had some time on his hands, never seen nothing like it since....well until now lol, I hope you take this as constructive critism, you are doing a nice job as it should be

Eric, did you have a camera?!!? LOL That's way past where I'm going. As you picked up on with the pumpkin, I want something that is strong enough to enjoy being used!

Pete, had to come back and thank you for sharing your materials knowlege.

[QUOTE=BuffaloBFN] Garbage Dump...you go girl?!!? 'Fraid to ask! LOL


You know; A sista gonna do, what a sista gonna do....her girlfriend say " You go girl!"

BuffaloBFN wrote: Wouldn't the ballons get crushed?

Fill the ballons with water! The weight of the water will also hold them in place. You are going to use the slow rise foam so it really doesn't develope that much pressure.

how about a 1' piece of pvc with a series of drain holes aimed down? for drainage

8122pbrainard wrote: JoeinNY wrote: guys, guys, guys, Joe,Joe,Joe, I have mentioned that I feel it is overkill but I also feel you are missing one important factor. The drain will allow the water to drain rather than holding the water agaist the foam.

Pete, I'm not seeing that happen, yes while it's on the trailer it might, but once it starts to wick into the foam your done. If you are going to add a drain then you have to connect it to the bilge area to give the water a place to go aka drain, but by doing that you are also give water from the bilge a path to the foam while your underway regardless of where the drain dumps out into the bilge.

dains under the foam is realy a bad idea and going to create more problems than it solves. Either way you do it, your saying I didn't do a good job glassing in the stringers and replacing the floor so I better be prepared for water getting under the foam again. So I install tubing with holes, will then I've just created a path for water to soak the foam from day one. If I glass stuff in and lay foam over then all I've done is create an extra chamber for the bilge water to play in and it provides no means to drain anything from the foam and that's what your trying to do. Well the fact of the matter is you can't create, design or do anything that can drain water from the foam to the bilge without creating a direct path for water to get into the foam so any attemp to do so is only going to make matter worst than if you would have just left them out and worry about doing a good job glassing the deck to the stringers and freeboards. AKA drains in the foam are a waiste of time and a lose, lose sittuation no matter what you come up with.

to foam or not to foam that is the question,

lets start a pro's and con's topic

with: you wont sink

without: save money, no future rot, actually if they are watertight compartmants you wont sink anyways because they will be bouyant, you can make storage compartments, please feel free to add.....

skicat wrote: He doesn't have to worry about sinking, the only thing he could sink it in around Lanier is the mud!

Easy now...IIRC, you have more than 1 boat here on the mud hole that has gained 3+' recently. We pour our glasses half full around here!

OK, Chris has brought up an excellent point. What if I do have the intake on bacerds and oil goes everywhere...plus lake crud and things that grow in the dark. I'd want any of that where it could be cleaned!

I have been thinking about this being closed-cell foam(Pete, I'm using 2lb pour in for cost reasons) rather than what was in there, but I wasn't thinking about the bow sitting lower in the water like it will be. I have the mains leveled now and the floor is angled up a good bit relative to them...the floor will only have a slight nose up angle in the water.

Now I'm leaving out the weight I've removed...it may want to stand on its stern when I put it in?!!? LOL