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Kristof
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Posted: April-21-2008 at 8:30am |
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Eric and other tranny guru's...
When checking the shaft seal last sunday, I noticed that, when the engine runs at idle (800 RPM) and the handle is in neutral, the shaft keeps turning slowly (plus minus one RPM per second). Is this normal? If not, how to fix this? Thanks, Kristof |
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8122pbrainard
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How much would it cost to ship a trans from Belgium to Ohio?
Kristof, I think the slow rotation is normal. I see it all the time. Eric, Isn't some just caused by the oil shear between the plates? |
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Kristof
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A buddy of mine here said it could be due to the viscosity of the transmission oil... But, Pete, it's good to hear that you've seen it also. |
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eric lavine
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its pretty much normal, what kind of oil are you running Kristof?
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Kristof
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Eric, I don't know the brand, but my friend who's a marine mechanic and did the engine overhaul with me, said it's about the best stuff you can get on the market (that's because I damn well told him only the best is good enough for my baby!! )
He got the oil at the CC dealer here in Belgium. |
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eric lavine
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sounds like you bought some $12.95 a quart snake oil
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eric lavine
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the best oil to run is dexron mercon $1.95 qt
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eric lavine
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BTW, when you did the engine how many bolts were left over that you figured you probably didnt need anyways? lol
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8122pbrainard
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It's only a really good mechanic that can make something work with parts left over after reassembly!!!! Belginian snake oil?? Do they even have snakes?? |
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It's only a real good mechanic that can make something work with parts left over after reassembly!! Belginian snake oil?? Do they even have snakes? |
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You'd better have bolts left over after a rebuild. If not, it's probably because they were dropped in the intake or left in the oil pan. The only way to ensure this didn't happen is to have them left over.
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Kristof
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Believe it or not... NONE... go figure LOL
Yes we do, Pete, we have three species of snakes (only one is dangerous) Eric, I gave a call to my friend, and this is the oil I have in my tranny at the moment: Kroon Oils I hope it will get your approval |
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it says it is a derivative from mountain goats
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And.........?? Is that bad for the tranny.......? is that what makes my shaft turn slowly at idle...? |
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Mine spins faster than mentioned above in so called neutral.. Not sure what to do next? |
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eric lavine
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how bad is it spinning? does it want to stall when you put the boat in reverse? it really shouldnt spin at all and is refered to as a clean nuetral.
how many hours? how does the oil smell and look? |
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eric lavine
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Pete, how the hell do you keep track of this stuff?
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wakesurfer
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Thanks for all the insight. the prop spins one to two revolutions a second, yet I can stop it by hand... the fly wheel that is. The trans fluid was black to dark dark red. Lots of hours over 1k. didnt smell. I drained the fluid, put in new fluid w an evil additive. It seems to slow it down a little. The reverse seems like a fast and abrupt transition... from fwd, to reverse - very strong and powerful reverse. The PO said it had been that way for a long time... thanks for telling me now. Hope to get my cables put back properly into my shifter. I know this is off topic, but I cant remember how the levers in the inside of the shifter arm were arranged? such a newbie.... keen though, jamie |
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eric lavine
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alot of times when they slam into gear such as into reverse, the reverse return springs will weaken and the piston shoots out and grabs the plates, this is one of the primary causes for snaping reverse plates in half, it sounds like you can get another season with no major problem, but if the nuetral drag gets worse you have to take care of it, at least for safety reasons
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8122pbrainard
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Eric, He used a additive in the trans. |
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eric lavine
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DC
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wakesurfer
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Thanks for all the help on this and other post. BTW, what does "DC" stand for? I assume additives are EVIL. off for another episode in the boat. cheers. Jamie |
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8122pbrainard
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Death certificate. |
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eric lavine
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then birth certificate
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eric lavine
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thats the first smiley for me
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