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Where's that Buffalo guy who's supposed to be following me around with a dust pan?!!?




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Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

You've done an outstanding job documentating of this thread. Sorry I missed it last Friday!


My cut and mix man called in sick again?!!?   

You'll be more at home anyway when the patch turns into a garden!
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Thanks for the kind words Doc!

Here's a couple of where it sits for now. The floor piece made Amy happy...she said it had been a long time since she saw any part of the boat's floor?!!?   LOL

This is the foam before the glass...



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Greg, Aren't you supposed to be on a airplane???


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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Greg, Aren't you supposed to be on a airplane???


About this time in the morning I will be!!!

Being something of a pilot myself, I'm even looking forward to the landing in Montego Bay. It's a tricky approach and the pilot has to stick the landing! I live for stuff like that, but it'll scare the socks off of Amy's bride's maid?!!?   LOL

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Greg looks like things are going well on your project. Can't wait to see it run.
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Originally posted by 87BFN owner 87BFN owner wrote:

Greg looks like things are going well on your project. Can't wait to see it run.


I've mentioned it several times that he should bring it to GL. Now I'm going to have to convince Amy!!!!


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Found this site about Sanger Boats. In the lamination section of the factory tour they talk about wood stringers that will definately not rot. They were very strong on this in fact all the wood used in their boats they claim will not rot. It is a laminated plywood type structure. I wonder how it has been treated to obtain this rot resistance yet still allow the glass to bond to it correctly. Because I read previously on this site that the treated timbers have problems in this area. I actually found the whole tour most informative.

Any comments from you experienced guys on these claims would be most appreciated.


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Lewy, It's a epoxy and wood veneer lamination. Because the laminations as so thin, the wood is basically saturated with the epoxy. Same principle as a cold molded wood boat.


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Is it possible to buy this type of timber or do Sanger make it in house??

Would it be possible to use a thin 3 ply and epoxy multiple layers to achieve this product??

Pete I bet you liked the bit where they said there is no better structural component than glassed timber in a boat.
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Originally posted by lewy2001 lewy2001 wrote:

Is it possible to buy this type of timber or do Sanger make it in house??

Would it be possible to use a thin 3 ply and epoxy multiple layers to achieve this product??



I've never seen it but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I have the felling that they are laying this up in big sheets themselves. One thing about the lamination is the epoxy strengthens the wood to the point that you would only need about 75% of the original thickness to do the same thing.

No on the 3 ply plywood. The glue bond will prevent the epoxy from getting through to the middle. If the edges were sealed after cutting it would be ok. But by then, you might as well just do the solid. I did laminate a wakeskate from 5 layers of 1/8" ply and did seal the edges real good. It of coarse doesn't see the constant exposure to the moisture ether! The lamination was to get the curvature.



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Hi Guys
Try looking up Roechling as they make it, but will cost more than GRP.
I have gone for GRP for my stringer job

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Roger, I couldn't find a wood lamination on the Roechling site. All I saw were composites. How about a direct link to what you are referring to.


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Hi Peter

The type of material I thought off was this Lignostone may be that the company has two spellings
Rochlin or Roechling as for a link, please give me some slack as im not up to that page yet.

As for Lignostone the cost is very high so GRP is more cost effective and over in the US, not sure of AUS. JoeinNY has found you have Corsa Board, or Roecherlin Glastic in the US look under Gold Member for boats.

Had a go let me know if it works

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Rodger, Thanks for the link. The "Lignostone" is wood veneer bonded with a heat cure phenolic in a retort. The process was actually developed during WWII. Complete boat hulls up to about 18' (the max size they could fit in a retort) were made and many are still out there and in good shape. Interesting process - the look of wood without any moisture problems. They lost out when fiberglass came around.


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Greg looks like things are going well on your project. Can't wait to see it run.


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I've mentioned it several times that he should bring it to GL. Now I'm going to have to convince Amy!!!!


Amy is convinced, but I'll run short on time this year. My trailer would need a little work for that trip and there are still a few weeds in the patch! LOL
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Well guess you need to weed faster.. Just kidding. Glad to see you guys made it back safe and sound.
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Cut Greg some slack...he is a newlywed...he has other things to attend to.

As always Greg..we love pictures! LOL.

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John and Jim...Ya Mon!!!   LOL

I got started back this afternoon making parts and getting the CPES on them. I also had to place another epoxy order.

It took half a day just to get the yard back in line!
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Hey Jim...not right away but...it sure slows down as time goes on. Wait till ya go over 50!

Greg: No rain to keep that yard in shape? Hows the lake doin'?

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John, I heard we had a big storm while I was gone and I KNOW we had 1 the night we came home. It held us up for about 3 hours. The yard problem was that it was way overgrown. I cut my neighbor's yard all the time...not sure why once was a problem for him?!!?   LOL

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Glad the Corps finally wised up.

As for your lawn and the neighbor's......proves that no good deed goes unpunished!

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Greg, a proven fact is the Republicans do not release money to the Corp of engineers during thier administration, the last time the dredge companies saw big contracts was during the slick willy admin. and have'nt seen any since...... Waterways have become a big problem in the later years because of this. Money abroad seems to be more important

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Really? Gonna bring politics, & partisan politics at that into this thread?... wow!

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Eric, we'll have to hang out in the briar patch someday for the politics. Bring money to lose cause we're gonna make a few bets!

So, now I know what amine blush is. What a mess, but it's all cleaned up thanks to something the Doc told me. Thanks mon.

Does anyone know the Correct name for the 'ribs' that are perpendicular to the secondary stringers to the outside?
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Greg, if i bring some doe with me....the value of it isnt what it once was, i guess I'll have to bring alot

Nate, i was talking to the dredge estimater last week and he filled me in, I'll let Greg sit down with him, i just wanted to rustle Mr R lol
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