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    Posted: May-28-2008 at 5:20pm

90 SN - noticed a 'moaning' for lack of a better description when turning this weekend.   Would get louder the sharper I turned. At speed... no noise when idling around. Any ideas?
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Its normal, don't worry about it.

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Keith's '94 did it with the factory prop- when he put an Acme on it, it went away.

I wouldnt say that anything is necessarily wrong- but calling the groaning normal is a bit of a stretch. None of the other Nautiques Ive ever been in have done it.
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Tim, I think he might be talking about the growling "shark" shaped tracking fins, which would be normal.
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Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

Tim, I think he might be talking about the growling "shark" shaped tracking fins, which would be normal.


That's what I was thinking. Happens on de-cel after dropping the throttle down and turning. I kinda miss the sound on the newer boats.
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I've had a couple of off brand (Malibu) ski boats and they didn't do it.   Also have been in other Nautiques and MCs and don't recall it.. but when it's not mine I don't pay as much attention.

Wouldn't be anything to do with the 'packing' around the shaft would it?   Heard a buddy say he was re-packing his Ski Nautique. I haven't had this boat long but if there's maintenance to do there I'm don't know about it.
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i wouldve suggested to try running the boat with the wife on shore and see if the moaning went away
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Originally posted by M3Fan M3Fan wrote:

Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

Tim, I think he might be talking about the growling "shark" shaped tracking fins, which would be normal.


That's what I was thinking. Happens on de-cel after dropping the throttle down and turning. I kinda miss the sound on the newer boats.

I wouldnt call the fin noise a growl- especially not after hearing Keith's boat turn around at the end of the slalom course... now that thing growled! It only did it in one direction under power, just like tapenick is describing.
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A new strut bearing cured that in the mustang, or was it the new prop I put on at the same time?
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Originally posted by M3Fan M3Fan wrote:

Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

Tim, I think he might be talking about the growling "shark" shaped tracking fins, which would be normal.


That's what I was thinking. Happens on de-cel after dropping the throttle down and turning. I kinda miss the sound on the newer boats.

I wouldnt call the fin noise a growl- especially not after hearing Keith's boat turn around at the end of the slalom course... now that thing growled! It only did it in one direction under power, just like tapenick is describing.


Again... Its normal. Everything after the 2001 series hull makes the noise around corners.

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Originally posted by behindpropeller behindpropeller wrote:

Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Originally posted by M3Fan M3Fan wrote:

Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

Tim, I think he might be talking about the growling "shark" shaped tracking fins, which would be normal.


That's what I was thinking. Happens on de-cel after dropping the throttle down and turning. I kinda miss the sound on the newer boats.

I wouldnt call the fin noise a growl- especially not after hearing Keith's boat turn around at the end of the slalom course... now that thing growled! It only did it in one direction under power, just like tapenick is describing.


Again... Its normal. Everything after the 2001 series hull makes the noise around corners.

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With the exception of Keith's, none of the Correct Crafts Ive been in make more noise turning in one direction than the other.

Joe, we suspected either a loose rudder or worn strut bushings, but nothing appeared to have any play in it. The new prop cured it, so who knows.
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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Originally posted by behindpropeller behindpropeller wrote:

Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

Originally posted by M3Fan M3Fan wrote:

Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

Tim, I think he might be talking about the growling "shark" shaped tracking fins, which would be normal.


That's what I was thinking. Happens on de-cel after dropping the throttle down and turning. I kinda miss the sound on the newer boats.

I wouldnt call the fin noise a growl- especially not after hearing Keith's boat turn around at the end of the slalom course... now that thing growled! It only did it in one direction under power, just like tapenick is describing.


Again... Its normal. Everything after the 2001 series hull makes the noise around corners.

Tim

With the exception of Keith's, none of the Correct Crafts Ive been in make more noise turning in one direction than the other.

Joe, we suspected either a loose rudder or worn strut bushings, but nothing appeared to have any play in it. The new prop cured it, so who knows.



Well I have driven just about every year SN and they make noise after you get away from the 2001 hull. Maybe you are not turning hard enough. I know it makes more noise when you turn right.

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From Vince at SKIDIM:
"A Nautique will moan when you go into a turn. It will do it more on one side than the other (my 86 sounded like a mad dog). I don't have a good reason why it would get worse."

I don't think I mentioned it here but I told him it seemed to get worse on a long run.

Unless the 'getting worse' info triggers some new info I guess I'll chalk it up to normal and run it.


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Hollywood,

We've got a thread titled "Moaning when turning" and the best you can come up with is "Shark Fins". I think you're slipping.
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I am slipping, that's for sure. jbear has been plucking out some good quotes lately though. I did like eric's comment on the wife.
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I remember a call in to Click & Clack's auto show on public radio, , and the women caller described the car's moaning sound with great..uhm, accuracy...

They didn't know what the problem was but they asked if she wanted to sell the car...
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I have never been in or driven a inboard that didn't moan, groan, growl or gurgled in the turns! My X55 even whistles in the corners that I feel are the hull steps relieving themselves of trapped air. No, it doesn't pass gas!!


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Originally posted by TRBenj TRBenj wrote:

especially not after hearing Keith's boat turn around at the end of the slalom course...

Tim, I thought Keith discovered something was either loose it improperly fit when he went to change the prop-which contributed to the moan/ vibration while turning (especially in one direction).
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I really want to let this go and write it off as normal.... just making sure -

I can wiggle my rudder a little... is that okay?   Not in a radial direction (like I'd expect from a worn / improperly adjusted cable)... back and forth like I'd expect from a worn bushing / bearing.

It's just a little, doesn't seem bad but if it's supposed to be a really tight fit I may have a problem.


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Originally posted by tapenick tapenick wrote:


It's just little, doesn't seem bad but if it's supposed to be a really tight fit I may have a problem.


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I am slipping, that's for sure. jbear has been plucking out some good quotes lately though. I did like eric's comment on the wife.


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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

i wouldve suggested to try running the boat with the wife on shore and see if the moaning went away


Mine usually makeS more of a screaming sound, sometimes it even makes my eyes water, although that could be from the mace.
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i wouldve suggested to try running the boat with the wife on shore and see if the moaning went away


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