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Dave,

Here's the HIN: CTC10968M81H-SN

Doesn't look like it's the XX Classic


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I did get a answer from "vintagecarsandsuch". Sounds like he is a broker selling it for the owner. I don't think he is intentionally trying to mislead but the owner may be. He did say he's trying to get the HIN from the owner. I didn't ask him for it so it sounds like he does want to check it out. Diane did specifically ask for the HIN but hasn't gotten a answer. Alan's explanation is good regarding the differences between the two 81's. Thanks!


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Hey brothers, Having owned both 81 Models I can say the H.I.N. on the Classic XX ended in SND for: "Ski Nautique Deluxe" In my mind that is definative. See the Diarys section.
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:


Dave, would the 81 have been pulled off the same mold but then be trimmed out in ether a standard or a anniversary edition? The build sheet will tell. Does anyone else have a standard 81 but the "anniversary" is still molded into the hull?


That's my understanding of it Pete, they were all Anniversary boats but some were standards and some were Classic XX.

Does anyone know if all the 86 Nautiques were Silver models or did they make a standard that year as well?

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Diane sent a message to the seller yesterday asking for the HIN. I always get this funny feeling when a seller doesn't list the number. You can't tell me he doesn't know where to find it ether! If he can post a picture of the "anniversary" molded into the hull, you damn well know he's looked on the other side of the transom!!

Dave, would the 81 have been pulled off the same mold but then be trimmed out in ether a standard or a anniversary edition? The build sheet will tell. Does anyone else have a standard 81 but the "anniversary" is still molded into the hull?


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What I've learned about the 81 boats is they all seem to have the anniversary stamp on the left side of the stern, opposite the serial numbers so in essence he is right it is an anniversary nautique. But is is not a Classic XX which has the extra details that make it what we here call an Anniversary model.

So I think he's right in one sense but the boat itself is just a standard as oppsed to a deluxe model. I've seen this same issue a couple of times. Check out the 81 brochure, theres a spread on the XX
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Give me the hull number and the truth will be told.

I will give you the build sheet info.
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Originally posted by Hollywood Hollywood wrote:

Yes I forgot about that, we can hit him from all the angles. There are also those funky wooden side panels in place of the "shelf" along the inside of the gunnels.

Originally posted by jolenemccall jolenemccall wrote:

photos have been added that shows it is the 20th anniversary ltd. model.


HW:
Where? All the ones I see are of a plain jane regular 1981 Ski Nautique. For the second time, the boat listed is NOT an Anniversary Edition.


I believe this is what he's referring to:



Something is real "fishy" about this one!! A boat put together from parts?? It's been painted so maybe they started with a burnt out hull! Someone ask him for the HIN and we'll run it through Dave.

Edit: Well it just came to me the the HIN would be molded into the hull along with the "anniversary" lettering!!


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Sent to "vintagecarsandsuch":

"From your screen name of "vintagecarsandsuch", I'm sure you are aware of the importance of correctly identifying a item for sale.
This boat is not the anniversary edition you are claiming it to be. Whether it is intentional or not, you shouldn't be trying to sell it as something it isn't. The anniversary came with stainless rub rail, high back drivers seat, a white gel dash with a woodgrain overlay and a natural (not black) windshield. The hull side graphics are wrong (as well as the color) and the transom graphics should state "correct craft" only. I hope this isn't intentional as I would hate to see someone not knowing what they are buying being disappointed at a later date.
Best of luck with your sale, Pete"


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Yes I forgot about that, we can hit him from all the angles. There are also those funky wooden side panels in place of the "shelf" along the inside of the gunnels.

Originally posted by jolenemccall jolenemccall wrote:

photos have been added that shows it is the 20th anniversary ltd. model.


HW:
Where? All the ones I see are of a plain jane regular 1981 Ski Nautique. For the second time, the boat listed is NOT an Anniversary Edition.

Incase you were wondering what one actually looked like, see attached photos.

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I can confirm the stainless rub rail go get em
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I spotted it to. The yellow paint job (non original) caught my eye! Didn't the anniversary come with stainless rub rail? Looks like rubber to me. Confirm the stainless and I'll hit him with that one!


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I'll play.

"While 1981 is the 20th Anniversary year for the Ski Nautique, your boat is not an Anniversary Edition. The Anniversary Edition has a high rise driver back seat, a white gelcoat dash that matches the deck and hull (not black), a polished aluminum windshield frame (not black) and finally a woodgrain full dash face decal. You have a nice boat but please do not advertise ti as something it is not. Also, an original Anniversary Model would have simply sayd "Correct Craft" on the transom w/o the "Competition Ski Boat" and certainly was not available in any shade of yellow paint. Good Luck with the sale and I can provide you with plenty of photos of a real Anniversary Edition boat if you like"
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Send him pictures of Allens 81. Maybe he will notice the differences. Or a Link to the Diaries would help him.
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Normally I don't have time to nitpick, but yesterday was a really slow day at work, so I stumbled across this 81 "Anniversary" Nautique. I couldn't resisit shooting him an email expressing my doubts that it was actually an anniversary model, and pointed out differences such as the chrome windshield surround and the woodgrain dash, both of which this boat lacks. Below is the response:

Dear rleinen79,

Yes this is. we have more photos of the boat if you would like to see more showing it is the anniversary edition boat. Please reply with your direct email address and we will email you more photos of this direct. Thank You!


You guys now have 8 days to pressure him into changing his listing.

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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Adam, What did you end up doing with the suction hose and routing for you RWP? Were you able to eliminate the plastic 90?


Yeah, 90 deg is gone, one continuous hose now, haven't been able to go out yet though, wiring is acting up again, Maddmarxx brother is going to look at it tomorrow.
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Originally posted by adamt adamt wrote:

Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:


I still put black electrical tape on the forward portion of my stern lights!



Hey, wait a minute, I don't remember THAT being an "Original" Factory Option!?!?


Adam, You are absolutely correct that the tape isn't! Thanks!!! It's interesting that back in the late 40's and early 50's there was a optional chrome 1/2 cap that could be screwed on with the glass globe of a stern light. I guess it depended on the state you boated in or how well the USCG rules were enforced! The other trick is to rewire the 3 position nav light switch so it operates backwards from original. Off/bow only/bow and stern - This eliminates the stern only which is the "at anchor" first position. I did a fair amount of night running as a youth and learned that getting the night vision tuned in was key to seeing. I only remember hitting a channel buoy once but seem to also remember it was coming home after a party. I don't think it was a problem with getting my night vision!!

Adam, What did you end up doing with the suction hose and routing for you RWP? Were you able to eliminate the plastic 90?


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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:


I still put black electrical tape on the forward portion of my stern lights!



Hey, wait a minute, I don't remember THAT being an "Original" Factory Option!?!?
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

I still put black electrical tape on the forward portion of my stern lights!


I just put a sheer scarf over the light, to set the mood. Boom-chicka-wow-wow...
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Speaking of running/nav lights, remember the several years in the early 70's when the in transom 180 degree aft lights were used? They were fantastic! No stern light glare into the eyes screwing up the drivers night vision. Too bad the USCG didn't like the idea.



I still put black electrical tape on the forward portion of my stern lights!


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Originally posted by 62 wood 62 wood wrote:

Heres a guy that doesnt have a clue!!

He's selling these as 1960s water craft boat safety lights

Everyone knows those are from the 70s!

btw, he has two sets advertised... must be a really RARE option?


(do you think they'd look good on the 68 "nauta-cuda"?)


aren't those off a motorcyle anyway? sure looks like it to me with the amber lens, when did the CG approve amber running lights?
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Heres a guy that doesnt have a clue!!

He's selling these as 1960s water craft boat safety lights

Everyone knows those are from the 70s!

btw, he has two sets advertised... must be a really RARE option?


(do you think they'd look good on the 68 "nauta-cuda"?)
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Originally posted by The Lake The Lake wrote:

Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

I thought I'd pass on a very important tip. When restoring your classic or antique boat, it's always important to drill/cut holes for the speakers. Got to have the tunes!!


Pete, at least they didn't add a tower to mount those speakers.

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Chuck, Sorry I did forget to mention the tower. Have you seen this one on a Atom? I guess when he posted the picture he hadn't gotten to the speakers yet!



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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

I thought I'd pass on a very important tip. When restoring your classic or antique boat, it's always important to drill/cut holes for the speakers. Got to have the tunes!!


Pete, at least they didn't add a tower to mount those speakers.

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I thought I'd pass on a very important tip. When restoring your classic or antique boat, it's always important to drill/cut holes for the speakers. Got to have the tunes!!



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There's a red white 79 for sale in Sandwich. It's about a 40/20 boat though. 40 MPH at 20 sun blinded feet. The gel is through. Someone did the worst job possible on going over the stripes. And the interior looks like it's NEVER had a cover on it. I think he was only asking 6750. It's a steal for someone.
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Somebody got it for 3k...gotta be a deal.

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I do like the red, not to many 80/81s in that color.
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