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rleinen79
Gold Member Joined: December-16-2004 Location: New Carlisle IN Status: Offline Points: 733 |
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Normally I don't have time to nitpick, but yesterday was a really slow day at work, so I stumbled across this 81 "Anniversary" Nautique. I couldn't resisit shooting him an email expressing my doubts that it was actually an anniversary model, and pointed out differences such as the chrome windshield surround and the woodgrain dash, both of which this boat lacks. Below is the response:
Dear rleinen79, Yes this is. we have more photos of the boat if you would like to see more showing it is the anniversary edition boat. Please reply with your direct email address and we will email you more photos of this direct. Thank You! You guys now have 8 days to pressure him into changing his listing. Rob |
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critter
Platinum Member Joined: January-11-2008 Location: New Hill, NC Status: Offline Points: 1227 |
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Send him pictures of Allens 81. Maybe he will notice the differences. Or a Link to the Diaries would help him.
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Hollywood
Moderator Group Joined: February-04-2004 Location: Twin Lakes, WI Status: Offline Points: 13517 |
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I'll play.
"While 1981 is the 20th Anniversary year for the Ski Nautique, your boat is not an Anniversary Edition. The Anniversary Edition has a high rise driver back seat, a white gelcoat dash that matches the deck and hull (not black), a polished aluminum windshield frame (not black) and finally a woodgrain full dash face decal. You have a nice boat but please do not advertise ti as something it is not. Also, an original Anniversary Model would have simply sayd "Correct Craft" on the transom w/o the "Competition Ski Boat" and certainly was not available in any shade of yellow paint. Good Luck with the sale and I can provide you with plenty of photos of a real Anniversary Edition boat if you like" |
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8122pbrainard
Grand Poobah Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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I spotted it to. The yellow paint job (non original) caught my eye! Didn't the anniversary come with stainless rub rail? Looks like rubber to me. Confirm the stainless and I'll hit him with that one!
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JoeinNY
Grand Poobah Joined: October-19-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 5698 |
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I can confirm the stainless rub rail go get em
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Hollywood
Moderator Group Joined: February-04-2004 Location: Twin Lakes, WI Status: Offline Points: 13517 |
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Yes I forgot about that, we can hit him from all the angles. There are also those funky wooden side panels in place of the "shelf" along the inside of the gunnels.
HW: Where? All the ones I see are of a plain jane regular 1981 Ski Nautique. For the second time, the boat listed is NOT an Anniversary Edition. Incase you were wondering what one actually looked like, see attached photos. <B.J.'s blue one, the red one ultrahots posted, and Larry "surroundsound64" brown one> |
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8122pbrainard
Grand Poobah Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Sent to "vintagecarsandsuch":
"From your screen name of "vintagecarsandsuch", I'm sure you are aware of the importance of correctly identifying a item for sale. This boat is not the anniversary edition you are claiming it to be. Whether it is intentional or not, you shouldn't be trying to sell it as something it isn't. The anniversary came with stainless rub rail, high back drivers seat, a white gel dash with a woodgrain overlay and a natural (not black) windshield. The hull side graphics are wrong (as well as the color) and the transom graphics should state "correct craft" only. I hope this isn't intentional as I would hate to see someone not knowing what they are buying being disappointed at a later date. Best of luck with your sale, Pete" |
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8122pbrainard
Grand Poobah Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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I believe this is what he's referring to: Something is real "fishy" about this one!! A boat put together from parts?? It's been painted so maybe they started with a burnt out hull! Someone ask him for the HIN and we'll run it through Dave. Edit: Well it just came to me the the HIN would be molded into the hull along with the "anniversary" lettering!! |
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The Godfather
Platinum Member Joined: August-13-2008 Location: Orlando Fla Status: Offline Points: 1766 |
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Give me the hull number and the truth will be told.
I will give you the build sheet info. |
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The Godfather
Platinum Member Joined: August-13-2008 Location: Orlando Fla Status: Offline Points: 1766 |
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Someone open a window it's getting HOT in here.
Not much presure just a little .. |
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81nautique
Grand Poobah Joined: September-03-2005 Location: Big Rock, Il Status: Offline Points: 5787 |
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What I've learned about the 81 boats is they all seem to have the anniversary stamp on the left side of the stern, opposite the serial numbers so in essence he is right it is an anniversary nautique. But is is not a Classic XX which has the extra details that make it what we here call an Anniversary model.
So I think he's right in one sense but the boat itself is just a standard as oppsed to a deluxe model. I've seen this same issue a couple of times. Check out the 81 brochure, theres a spread on the XX |
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You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails
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8122pbrainard
Grand Poobah Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Diane sent a message to the seller yesterday asking for the HIN. I always get this funny feeling when a seller doesn't list the number. You can't tell me he doesn't know where to find it ether! If he can post a picture of the "anniversary" molded into the hull, you damn well know he's looked on the other side of the transom!!
Dave, would the 81 have been pulled off the same mold but then be trimmed out in ether a standard or a anniversary edition? The build sheet will tell. Does anyone else have a standard 81 but the "anniversary" is still molded into the hull? |
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81nautique
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That's my understanding of it Pete, they were all Anniversary boats but some were standards and some were Classic XX. Does anyone know if all the 86 Nautiques were Silver models or did they make a standard that year as well? |
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You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails
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hasbeenskier
Platinum Member Joined: May-23-2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1116 |
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Hey brothers, Having owned both 81 Models I can say the H.I.N. on the Classic XX ended in SND for: "Ski Nautique Deluxe" In my mind that is definative. See the Diarys section.
Be Skiin' ya! |
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8122pbrainard
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I did get a answer from "vintagecarsandsuch". Sounds like he is a broker selling it for the owner. I don't think he is intentionally trying to mislead but the owner may be. He did say he's trying to get the HIN from the owner. I didn't ask him for it so it sounds like he does want to check it out. Diane did specifically ask for the HIN but hasn't gotten a answer. Alan's explanation is good regarding the differences between the two 81's. Thanks!
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8122pbrainard
Grand Poobah Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Dave,
Here's the HIN: CTC10968M81H-SN Doesn't look like it's the XX Classic |
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Hollywood
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This guy is confusing craigslist for eBay
CL600 Lake Region Classic pair of water skis - $75 Exceptional Performance Phazer pair of water skis - $115 both for $165 And way high on price! (among other things) |
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81nautique
Grand Poobah Joined: September-03-2005 Location: Big Rock, Il Status: Offline Points: 5787 |
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Thats a sweet find HW, .99 for a starting bid, no reserve and $15 shipping. I'm gonna bid as you can never have enough doubles and the yellow ones should make a good step off.
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p/allen
Gold Member Joined: March-14-2006 Location: Dixon Illinois Status: Offline Points: 942 |
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Anybody notice that the [anniversary addition ] is stamped on the left side not the right with the HIN .
Never mind I went back and read the whole thing . |
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The Godfather
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This is what I found out about this model boat after reading the boat build sheet and calling a few old timers that know the answer.
All SN boats in 1981 were stamped 20th Anniversary Edition on the left side of the transom. Their were two types of packages built: 1. The Standard 2. Deluxe XX This is what is on the build sheet for CTC10968M81H-SN Built 3/10/81 W/351 PC Gray Hull & Deck W/Soft Silver Interior Engine # 212007 Trans # 18895 The trailer #3 lb Gray trailer 1CK1BBX11BID33017 The Godfather, has approved this message. |
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TRBenj
Grand Poobah Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21189 |
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Clearly the question has been answered, but I can verify that my '81 had the anniversary marking on the transom, but certainly was no anniversary model (like Alan's). Im sure thats where the seller's confusion came from- there probably arent many people beyond our small group that know the difference. |
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LaurelLakeSkier
Senior Member Joined: February-12-2007 Location: Wisconsin Status: Offline Points: 485 |
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An entertaining listing for a boat whose owner isn't sure what he wants it to be.
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Hollywood
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Check out those trim tabs Reid, looks like your Classic.
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quinner
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Because we have the best politicians in Illinois. I can proudly say I never voted for this Idiot!
How about a Senate seat for that interior upgrade? Seat For Sale |
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81nautique
Grand Poobah Joined: September-03-2005 Location: Big Rock, Il Status: Offline Points: 5787 |
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And he has the balls to go back to work today, what an *************** |
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You can’t change the wind but you can adjust your sails
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scottb
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And it sounds like his wife is just as bad. |
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Andy
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F that, F in, F ity, F , F .
She's classy. |
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adamt
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8122pbrainard
Grand Poobah Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Adam,
I sent the seller a message telling him I believe it's a 46, 47 or 48 Deluxe Utility model. Here's a 49 from our diaries. I'm saying the ebay boat is pre 49 because it has the earlier style dash panel. |
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SNobsessed
Grand Poobah Joined: October-21-2007 Location: IA Status: Offline Points: 7102 |
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It's never been in the water!
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