SN Rudder - SOLD

Wow! $275??? Is it gold plated??

Sorry east Texas But I couldnt help myself as the price you are asking for the rudder is close to dealer net on a new one with a tab.
I just sold a similar used rudder for $75.00.
Mine was not gold plated.

FL Inboards,

Are you interested in buying it? Are you trying to negotiate a better price? Or are you trying to gut any flexibility I may have on price from my sale and run off anyone who might actually want to buy this from me?

I'm not a dealer. I don't have a dealer net. I've got a rudder. I slapped a price on it. If someone wants to buy it for less, they can make me any offer they want. I guess if you're not buying it, I'm a little confused as to why you care what I'm asking for it?

I know it's a discussion forum, but I don't see a reason to check common courtesy at the door.

At this point, trying to sell it here is pretty much pointless. Sorry, Keith, I'd have liked to have made a donation with any proceeds.

I hope no one ever sabotages something you're trying to sell. It's pretty miserable and I wouldn't wish it on you.

My feelings be fine, Dave. No worries. I thought your post was funny.

Just picked up the boat with the new rudder and am stoked!

Old rudder is going on the fence for target practice!

You have been terribly helpful.

I live to give.



Also, since this has gone from a for sale ad to a rudder discussion with little chance of sale, can someone link me to the skidim ad for the $295 rudder that is compatible with a SN. The only one I see on there is a wedge style for $386, the description of which specifically says not compatible with most Correct Crafts. I remember that they used to have a tabbed rudder they sold, but when I started looking this year, I couldn't find one there.

Doug....A bit of a threadjack here. I have a non-prop related comment/question for you about your current and previous boat. I remember you from the MC members site which I used to post from time to time in the past. So, you made the jump from a MC 205 to a Ski Nautique. Congratulations!! I looked at it in your profile. It is truly a beautiful boat. "Re-sell Red" if I remember correctly .

My question is...how does it handle in the slalom course when pulling a skier vs your old 205? I drove my bosses MC 209 (which I think was the replacement for the 205??) this summer through the course, and it was a HANDFUL to keep straight as my boss is a big guy. I thought I was going to take out some buoys but luckily I didn't. I felt really nervous driving it. Did your 205 get pulled around easily? How does it compare to the Nautique tracking through the course? I have never driven a SN in the course.

Not trying to bash MC's. They are great boats. Just curious about the differences you noticed between the two boats handling characteristics in the course. Thanks!

east tx skier wrote: I live to give. Also, since this has gone from a for sale ad to a rudder discussion with little chance of sale, can someone link me to the skidim ad for the $295 rudder that is compatible with a SN. The only one I see on there is a wedge style for $386, the description of which specifically says not compatible with most Correct Crafts. I remember that they used to have a tabbed rudder they sold, but when I started looking this year, I couldn't find one there.

Page 24 of current Ski DIM catalog
Reads: Rudder assembly, " This solid bronze, neutral steer rudder has slotted mounting holes in rudder box to allow universal fit in most existing hole patterns on ski boats. Excellent performance and handling, grease seals,bore size 2",slotsfit 3/8" fastner $295.00"

Now I never stated that it was for a CC. I stated that Your dealer hosed you on the sale of the rudder and instilation and you are trying to recoup your out of pocket delima by trying to sell your old one for near cost of a new one. I just purchased a new rudder and port for a 08 PS-190, My cost $325 Total including shipping, Nautique rudders and ports are in the same ball park price wise! So if you paid over $500.00 for yours you got hosed.
No one is stopping you from trying to sell it just be ready to get some flak about an unrealstic asking price.

Hell! these guy's kicked my ass last year about a set of red OEM PCM valve covers I had for sale, I said the same thing! I will put them on the shelf! They are still on the shelf.

Fl Inboards wrote: east tx skier wrote: I live to give. Also, since this has gone from a for sale ad to a rudder discussion with little chance of sale, can someone link me to the skidim ad for the $295 rudder that is compatible with a SN. The only one I see on there is a wedge style for $386, the description of which specifically says not compatible with most Correct Crafts. I remember that they used to have a tabbed rudder they sold, but when I started looking this year, I couldn't find one there. Page 24 of current Ski DIM catalog Reads: Rudder assembly, " This solid bronze, neutral steer rudder has slotted mounting holes in rudder box to allow universal fit in most existing hole patterns on ski boats. Excellent performance and handling, grease seals,bore size 2",slotsfit 3/8" fastner $295.00" Now I never stated that it was for a CC. I stated that Your dealer hosed you on the sale of the rudder and instilation and you are trying to recoup your out of pocket delima by trying to sell your old one for near cost of a new one. I just purchased a new rudder and port for a 08 PS-190, My cost $325 Total including shipping, Nautique rudders and ports are in the same ball park price wise! So if you paid over $500.00 for yours you got hosed. No one is stopping you from trying to sell it just be ready to get some flak about an unrealstic asking price. Hell! these guy's kicked my ass last year about a set of red OEM PCM valve covers I had for sale, I said the same thing! I will put them on the shelf! They are still on the shelf.

Jody, I'm sorry, but I'm just not seeing it. I went to DIM and downloaded their 2009 Catalog (just in case it is different than what's in their web store). The only rudder I see in there has the same description you posted. The price is $386 though. If you go to their web store, the description specifically states, "This rudder will NOT work with most Correct Crafts." Now if it really is compatible, that's fine. But since it says it won't work, that's enough for me. Plus, as I mentioned, I don't want a wedge shaped rudder after seeing what a difference it made when MC went back to the more traditional shape on their ski boats. I figure CC has stuck with this rudder shape since a year before I was born for good reason.

As for getting hosed, without saying more, based on your price threshold, I wasn't. The figure I posted earlier is what White Lake lists the new OEM tabbed rudder for without the port. That's the only place I have seen them listed with a price. Knock 10% off that for the PN discount and add shipping and that's what an OEM rudder will run you unless your local dealer cuts you a better deal or you know someone that can hook you up. That is my reference point, not the price my dealer cut me.

Suffice it to say, I hunted the "parting out boats" threads here for months, but was beaten to the rudder or did not have a response from a seller. I was unwilling to go with an aftermarket part and knew I would pay more to get what I wanted. Since my dealer was going to do the install, I told them I wanted to buy the part from them if they could give me a good price. I believe they did.

I suppose you leave yourself open to a discussion about a listing price when you list something with a price as opposed to just saying "email for price." Since I don't like to email for price, I tend to slap a price on things I sell. In my opinion, things are worth what the buyer and seller agree they are worth. As a seller, you only have one chance to be unreasonable, or so they say. So if the price isn't firm, start higher.

As for taking flack on a forum for pricing, my experience is that on many sites some people tend not to go there. You are, of course, entitled to your opinion and, based on my reading your posts, you have likely forgotten more about CC boats than I will ever know. Can you jump in a for sale thread someone starts and say something is overpriced? Clearly, yes. Would I personally do it? No (but I really wanted to over a Powerstar 200 once or twice).

In the end, I'd rather have a spare rudder than an extra $100. So that's that.

east tx skier wrote: Not to beat a dead horse

Doug, I wasnt going to say anything, but since we've already got our beating sticks out...

I had to replace the 11A rudder in our BFN in August, and while I would have jumped on Jody's $75 rudder, I was able to find several 11A's for sale on here and ebay. Prices ranged from $100-200, the high end being the chrome plated one that was last listed for $190 and still hadnt sold. I had one shipped to my door for $120 in time for the weekend (thanks again Steve!). Yours is newer/nicer and includes the port, but the price difference is pretty big. Just FYI!

Chopper sold his 89 pylon for $200, I sold mine for $75. I've gotten wealths of information, parts and friendships from this site. I try to pass that on.

Fl Inboards wrote: Hell! these guy's kicked my ass last year about a set of red OEM PCM valve covers I had for sale, I said the same thing! I will put them on the shelf! They are still on the shelf.

I clearly remember this. I thought you were a d*ck at the time, but I'm past that and really don't care anymore! Thanks for hanging around here Jody, your CC knowledge is "gold plated".

You didn't tell me it was gold plated and signed by JW.

The 176 is coming over tommorow and getting a drive and ski test session. If all goes well I will make him an offer on it

Thanks Hollywood!! Being a D$$K I try not to be but sometimes it just happens.
Found a 11-A"looking" rudder on evil-pay for a buck and quarter ($1.25)http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190341690414
Check it out.

"An items worth is determined by what someone will actually pay for said item." Thats what my G-pa said to me. He used to work swap meets.