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davee40 ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May-22-2009 Location: LAKELAND,FL Status: Offline Points: 249 |
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im sure you do james
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LaurelLakeSkier ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: February-12-2007 Location: Wisconsin Status: Offline Points: 485 |
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It is a hard fall because your head is thrown back on the fall.....kind of like a whiplash injury. In addition, when going out the back, you really don't have much chance and aren't in position to tuck and roll with the fall. Even though the speeds are usually a bit slower than forward speeds, the falls can really ring your bell and the neckbraces do help avoid injury. One other thing that was pointed out to me (that I found that helps) is to keep your head rolled back tight to your shoulders--head up. In that position, it doesn't have far to travel after the fall and really cuts down on the amount of stars I see after a fall. |
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Riley ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-19-2004 Location: Portland, ME Status: Offline Points: 7952 |
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Do you guys ever have problems with water in your ears? I was wondering if a helmut would help with that?
Maybe a neck brace is a great idea. Seems a face plant going forward would screw your neck, too. |
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502Python ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: August-03-2009 Location: Clifton IL Status: Offline Points: 167 |
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Wacko, when falling backwards it is hard to keep your head tucked and on hard,surprising falls you can get a touch of whiplash when you smack the water. The brace limits how far your neck can snap toward the middle of your shoulder blades. On front to backs it can be worse (for me) because you are traveling at a higher speed (than plain back footing) and the falls tend to be not so graceful and out of position. I tend to fall more times than not. I don't wear one for front footing but after hundreds of falls while you are trying to learn and master a trick it can take a toll on your neck.I remember one day I fell probably 40 times on the shoes while trying front to back and another 5 or 6 on my feet. If you are a natural footer and learn without any nasty falls you are lucky.
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502Python ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: August-03-2009 Location: Clifton IL Status: Offline Points: 167 |
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Oh yeah, I put tape over my nose too. Bad sinuses. Almost forgot, I wear a banana cup for back deeps. Is that acceptable?
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davee40 ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May-22-2009 Location: LAKELAND,FL Status: Offline Points: 249 |
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you can break your neck with a front fall just as quick as with with a backward fall
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davee40 ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May-22-2009 Location: LAKELAND,FL Status: Offline Points: 249 |
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james you wear a banana cup padded panties and a cowboy neck brace did you you use to be a rodeo rider or are you still talking about barefooting
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davee40 ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May-22-2009 Location: LAKELAND,FL Status: Offline Points: 249 |
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and duct tape on your nose
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502Python ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: August-03-2009 Location: Clifton IL Status: Offline Points: 167 |
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Like I said, I must not be as tough as you. Or, maybe, you don't have any balls so you don't even need a cup?
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davee40 ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May-22-2009 Location: LAKELAND,FL Status: Offline Points: 249 |
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been barefooting for 35 years and never wore a cup or padded panties .other than my wet suit i do wear a nose plug on deep water backs, and no i havent been neutered
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OK, everybody out of the sandbox.
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davee40 ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May-22-2009 Location: LAKELAND,FL Status: Offline Points: 249 |
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The neck brace for me is the difference of a week of neck pain after a bad back fall vs. just some pain when it happens.
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Do you wear a clit clip too? I suppose that makes sense since you haven't been neutered. I don't think anyone cares what you wear barefooting. Unless you have a neck brace suggestion, or a word of caution with any of the models you're not adding anything to this thread. Actually, you're making yourself look like quite an ass. We get your point, you think we're all pussies. Thanks! |
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davee40 ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May-22-2009 Location: LAKELAND,FL Status: Offline Points: 249 |
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you know what hw if by voicing an opposing opinion and being sarcastic youve been an ass on here quite often , if you will read back youll see that you and python started throwing out the snide remarks. i just reciprocated
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Hollywood ![]() Moderator Group ![]() ![]() Joined: February-04-2004 Location: Twin Lakes, WI Status: Offline Points: 13512 |
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Oh, my fault for not catching your sarcasm. For the last time, what else do you have to add to this thread? I've already wasted enough space engaging you, turning to ignore now.
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davee40 ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May-22-2009 Location: LAKELAND,FL Status: Offline Points: 249 |
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you know what hw its still a free country so do as you wish
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Fl Inboards ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-20-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2082 |
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I have seen a number of 200' plus jumpers wear this! Also Jon Travers (Pro slalom skier) wears something similar. |
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Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.
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They must be wimps who should get out of the sport. I think the following should quit their sports/careers too for they are obviously too wimpy to be particiipating in them: Wimpy football players that wear pads, helmets, cups, mouthguards Wimpy race car drivers that wear helmets, flame retardant suits, hans devices Wimpy cyclists that wear helmets Wimpy motorcyclists that wear helmets, shin guards Wimpy hockey goalies that wear masks, gloves, pads Wimpy marksmen that wear ear and eye protection Wimpy boat racers that wear life jackets and helmets Wimpy doctors and EMTs that wear masks and gloves Wimpy fireman who wear boots, helmets, shields, turnout gear Wimpy hazardous response professionals that wear suits, respirators, gloves, boots Wimpy body shop workers that wear respirators Wimpy soldiers that wear helmets and flak jackets Wimpy paratroopers that wear parachutes For crying out load...what happened to all the men? |
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“So, how was your weekend?” “Well, let me see…sun burn, stiff neck, screwed up back, assorted aches and pains….yup, my weekend was great, thanks for asking.” |
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Fl Inboards ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-20-2008 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 2082 |
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They all moved to Cape Cod and became Lobster fishermen!!!
Hey have you been to the Lobster boat races?? Some of those things fly. |
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Hobby Boats can be expensive when the hobbyist is limited on their own skill and expertise.
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They call them Lobstermen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ5v6PGDkqE Larry, it's a wonder you're not all busted up! |
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davee40 ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: May-22-2009 Location: LAKELAND,FL Status: Offline Points: 249 |
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those lobster boats are bad ass
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Many thanks to those of you that offered constructive comments. My BFC neckbrace arrived today. I still think $100 is ridiculous for what you get material-wise, but certainly worth it pain and safety-wise. Since I couldnt bring myself to ponying up that kind of dough, I sold some crap on ebay I had laying around till I had enough in paypal and then ordered it. Only thing I regret is having to sit and stare at it for the next four months. Hmmmmm...River Run???
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Riley ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-19-2004 Location: Portland, ME Status: Offline Points: 7952 |
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Larry, what about ear protection. Are ear infections common for barefooters? If so, what do you suggest besides bathing caps?
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Bruce,
I recall you asked about that earlier in the thread. Are the boys having trouble with ear infections? I never had that problem, although I have ruptured ear drums on a number of occasions to the point where my hearing is rather affected on one side. Unless you take a hard fall, I dont see water in the ear any worse than skiing, but I could be wrong. A swim cap could work, although that might look as goofy as my goggles, nose clips, neck brace..... Ear plugs are a possibility, but definitely DO NOT use those plastic tree looking things that stick into your ear canal. A good twisting fall and those suckers would be jammed three inches into your brains. I used to buy those soft waxy moldy kind when I was having my ear drum problems and make sure they covered my outer ear so they can't get jammed in. I used to tinker with a toe-hold handle years ago and when falling, I would tend to torque to the side...not a pretty fall, ear-wise. My son has trouble with in-the-water related ear infections, not necessarily from skiing, just being in the water in general. He was given some drops to use before going in the water that may help. Guess they form a barrier against intruding water, but I am guessing that theory might not hold water (ha ha get it) when that intruding water is intruding at 40 mph! |
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Riley ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-19-2004 Location: Portland, ME Status: Offline Points: 7952 |
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I didn't know if a good dragging through the water flushed everything out so much that it caused problems. Bathing caps are not an option. It wouldn't bother me, but funny how stuff like that bothers younger people. I remember your Thomas asking you when you and Quinner were donning those orange vests, " why are you doing this"?
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I have a bottle of hydrogen peroxide in my boat. When the water starts warming up I always just put a capful into each ear at the boat lift. It pops and sizzles Tim ![]() |
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Bring it down here and me and Eddie will put you and your new brace in the water. Me..I will drive..knee still giving me trouble. john |
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Wanted to try my new brace from BFC down at St. John's, but did not get the chance. I think I'm going to book some instruction from Andre De Viller this spring. I'm sure I'll get some use out of it learning a consistant back deep.
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