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    Posted: January-06-2010 at 10:26pm
Been tossing around the idea of a tower for my 79SN and decided to go for it! With the help of a family friend "Chuck"(Meticulous fabricator/welder)I decided to build a tower for obvious reasons$$$ based off new dimensions FCT. So far we found some 11/64 stainless steel and now in the process of finding out whether a friend of Chuck's will bend the pipe("only guy I'd trust to bend up something like this" is what he said when I talked to him earlier. Some of the things we talked about were having the mounting feet, backing plates, ect machined, stainless hardware everything will be recessed, delron swivel from Overton's yada yada. Should be very nice when finished if everything works out accordingly. Chad from New Dimensions Towers(Great guy/very helpful/informative) wanted 1575(tower)200(powder Coating)180(to ship) Looking like $1200 to do it ourselves.



Any pre-build advice or opinions would be great!
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Who's boat is that?
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No idea? Just what I'm using as a concept.
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I believe that boat belongs to Larry Camp, surroundsound64. If I recall, he was the first 81 and older SN to have a newdimension tower made. Towed the boat back to Tennessee to have the pattern made. BKH
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Shaun,

What's up, didn't we see you and your boat at Lake Clinton last Sept?
I have a factory FCT on my 206, if you need any specific photo's or measurements let me know. One thing you may want to consider is adding a stern light to the tower and if you have any plans for future speakers pre drill as required.
Good Luck with your Project.

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   Not much other than work, Clinton was our first time out and you guys made it a great experience. I was planning on running speaker wire with a grommet and sealing it with silicone so i could add tower speakers later but i hadn't thought about a stern light, that's not a bad idea. Alan is planning on coming over Sunday to get me headed in the right direction on the floor/stringer repair. So I guess it's time to buckle down and get some things done. Any dimensions, measurements, photos would be awesome. Right now I'm still waiting to find out about getting the pipe bent though.

   
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Home playing snow hookie today too huh?
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I think you would spend more than $1200 if you plan to powder coated. If $1575 would buy the tower, not powder coated, why not put your effort in driving to pick it up. The difference is $375 and you know it will be perfect fit. I bought a use FCT and adapted to my SN 87. The modification were expensive but still I saved some money but not much.

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Chris, Decided to take Anthony's approach. Found a great deal on a fct1, Thanks Kurt! Just brought it home tonight.

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So you're saying it was a good trip today for ya then?
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Oh yeah, but the driving killed me:(

I'm scared to cut it up..
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Shaun,
Have you started on the stringer project yet? Has Alan had a chance to take a look at it yet?


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Shaun,
I put a FCT on my '87 a couple of years ago...

The following is where I got my inspiration:

http://www.planetnautique.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=452&highlight=

Here is what I did:

http://www.planetnautique.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=3153&highlight=

I know they are not the same tower or boat, but thought some of the techniques we used might be of some help.

If you have any questions, I'll be happy to try to help.

Good luck, and post pics when you're done!!

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(PlanetNautique seems to be down right now, but the links are good)

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Pete,
   Alan stopped by last Sunday and the stringers are solid for the time being seeing as I'll be using a tower but in order to repair the pylon and build a cradle he feels the stringers and the floor will be necessary.
I'm thinking that will be next winters project.
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Thanks Glen, I was trying to find a 2nd gen fct, but this was a deal I couldn't pass up.
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My tower was built by the PO it looks sharp . when I pull it out of the garage I will post pictures. It is aluminum . If you use aluminum you have to get the right gauge I think it 4000. The hardest thing is finding a shop w/ a mandrel. Muffler bender will work but very tough.
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Originally posted by malibud malibud wrote:

If you use aluminum you have to get the right gauge I think it 4000.   


4000 what? Gauge?

Are you referring to a 4000 alloy?

Just for everyone's information if someone is thinking of fabrication, a 4032 aluminum is:
Medium hard, is just under the half way point of all aluminum's in yield strength, not a alloy that is recommended for welding, has fair corrosion resistance, very poor forming and workability qualities but does machine well.


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Pete,
Any idea what alloy CC used for my fct1 in case i need some tubing?
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Shaun,
Keep the pics coming as the project proceeds. You got a deal, I got a tower off my boat and cash, win win. See you around this summer.

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What boat was this on Kurt?
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Thats a pretty serious boat congrats, where are the pictures?
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Originally posted by nau7iqu9 nau7iqu9 wrote:

Pete,
Any idea what alloy CC used for my fct1 in case i need some tubing?


I don't know what was used originally but I can take a good guess at it. 6061 is available in tube, would give you the weldability needed, a decent yield strength, mid range hardness and still be a alloy that can be bend without too much of a problem (with proper equipment/mandrels). It's corrosion resistance isn't as good as some others but still very good. If it was around salt water, it would need anodizing.


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Kurt,
Thanks for hookin me up! The tower was some good motivation. I Restored my mirror last night and spent 2 hours sanding on my swim platform. We'll definitely be seeing you around this summer, lookin forward to it.
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6061 is a good choice how about 5052 ?
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I'm not seeing why you will need to add material. Looks to me like you are going to need to cut about 4 inches our of the top bar on each side of the tow mounts, and reweld the tubes together. Perhaps a little bedin on the mounting legs. BKH
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Originally posted by Waterdog Waterdog wrote:

6061 is a good choice how about 5052 ?


The 5052 may not be the greatest choice. It's forming and working is better but thats because it's yield strength and hardness is lower than the 6061. The biggest problem is you may find it's not available in many tubing sizes. It's typically used for small dia. soft tube applications


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I guess why I asked about the tubing was because I'd like make the fabrication as unnoticeable as possible so i thought about possibly making a new crossbar instead of shortening and scabbing it together, just a thought probably not reality.

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