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Keeganino
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Moving right along. The engine is out and all the cables, wires, etc have been pulled out of the air box. It is supposed to snow this weekend so probably will plot and scheme.
Tim I should probably stick to the original plan of removing one side at a time, there is not much left of the starboard secondaries, so I will take those out first. |
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WakeSlayer
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Do youself a small favor and pop off your steering wheel and helm. You will hit your head on them more times than you can imagine.
When you unbolted and separated the coupler did it stay more or less in place? or did it go askew ? Just an indicator of how your alignment was is all. |
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Keeganino
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I tried to get the steering wheel out yesterday, but I need a flathead screwdriver that can get into a 1" space. Maybe one shaped like an allen key? At least I think that will do it. Have not had time to search for a thread on this today.
As for the coupler, it seemed to stay right were it was. Before I disconnected it I could easily spin the shaft by hand, but it did make some noise. Now it spins very freely and does not make the noise. I can slide the shaft up and down a couple of inches too. Is that normal? It seems good to me but not sure what problems to look for. |
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WakeSlayer
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You may need a cheap gear puller to get the steering wheel off. It is a tapered 3/4" keyed shaft.
You mean in and out? or up and down? In and out would be normal. |
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Mike N
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Keeganino
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In and out I guess. There is no play side to side or up and down, so yeah I guess that does makes it in and out. Jeez that hurt my brain... had to think about that.
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Keeganino
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Ok trying to wrap my head around this. I know what tapered means, but what about the keyed part. I have the gear part that the cable runs through out, I will take some pics in a little bit and show what I have going on this evening. I need to remove the entire steering assembly from the dash so it can be painted and greased up before putback. Will have plenty of time to read up this weekend as it is supposed to snow up to 12" by Saturday. |
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Keeganino
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These are the lag bolts from the engine mounts. No wonder they would not hold torque
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Keeganino
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Future Correct Craft Fan! She has not even been for a ride in "Daddy's Boat" yet but she sure likes it sitting there in the driveway and talks about it all the time. Apple don't fall too far know what I mean.
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WakeSlayer
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The key is a woodruff key, There is a slot in the tapered shaft and in the hold in the steering wheel. Keeps it straight where you put it. Then the nut press fits the wheel onto the shaft. Just get a cheap $10 puller at a Napa or such.
What do you mean you have the gear part out? Did you disassemble the help from the inside? Just an idea, save up all the parts like the helm, shifter box, and others and have them powder coated. It looks nice and I like the finish than paint. Of course, I suck at painting. |
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Mike N
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WakeSlayer
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By the way, your lags, while rusty aren't that bad. The threads were rotted off of a couple of mine, and a couple others were considerably shorter than they used to be. Muddy metal.
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Mike N
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8122pbrainard
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Keegan,
You'll need a plate style puller like this. You'll thread it into the center hub of the wheel. Real cute!! Watch out in 10 or so years!! Where's the red hair come from? |
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79nautique
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you have to be carefull most pullers of this style are usually to large to use on a steering wheel. The threaded shaft is usually to large a diameter and the slots are not close enough together for them to work. Get a steering wheel pull which only has two legs 180 apart. |
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Keeganino
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We're just a bunch of Scotch, Irish, English skallywags! All her cousins on my wife's side are reds. All I can say is that she won't have a problem with people pushing her around! Here is a picture of my steering wheel as it sits now. The gear box(whats it called) that the steering cable runs through has been removed from the back already, and it seems like the whole thing would come out if I just got to those screws. I am having a hard time visualizing how the puller works, but I will think harder I promise. What is this called? |
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8122pbrainard
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Chris, The smaller of the two is perfect. The spread/bolt hole circle is 1" to 3". |
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8122pbrainard
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Keegan,
Pull the center cap off the wheel and under it will be the big nut that Mike referred to. Next to the main shaft will be the holes to thread the puller bolts in. |
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79nautique
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Pete I agree a small version works fine, but most will have the size that is used for the harmonic balancer and larger stuff and that won't cut it. Just don't want someone to go out and buy a new one to find out it doesn't work and have to make another trip to the store we've all been there and done that and it's PIA.
Yes pull the center cap and measure the spread so you know what puller to use and then also check the screw size too...1/4" course I think is the right size and 3" long is usually a good length to use. |
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Keeganino
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Thanks I hate multiple trips to the store. You guys really look out and I appreciate it! Ok how do I pull that cap off without damaging it? I was not sure IF it came off so I was hesitant to start prying around with a screw driver. While we are looking at it- what is the best way to restore the steering wheel. The chrome looks great and the wood will probably look good with a little oil on it but the actual rim looks rough. My thoughts were to buff it? Any ideas? |
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79nautique
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I would say the round center chrome piece is what should pop off. There might be screws from the backside holding on the larger piece that the round piece press into. Mine had a different style than yours put usually it's a lite inteferance fit and just pops off. just go easy maybe wrap some masking tape on the end of the screw driver so you don't scratch the chrome.
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WakeSlayer
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While the small puller may work too, I used a larger puller with arms on it every time I have removed a steering wheel. The arms will adjust so you can just hook the back side with the edge. They are a fairly light interference fit and do not take much pressure to remove.
http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/teleflexSeal.html Sorry, my stupid computer will suddenly not let me do a custom link. NOt sure what to tell you on the center cap other than to be careful. |
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Mike N
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8122pbrainard
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Keegan,
I've never had to pull the cap off one of your style of wheels but just as Chris and Mike mentioned it's most likely a friction fit. Be carefull. It sort of like prying the backside of a watch off!! Of course I flunked on one of my wifes and she had to take it to the jeweler for the battery change!! BTW, my wife is a red head so I know perfectly well that your daughter will most likely be able to take care of herself - unless she runs into a red headed male! |
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WakeSlayer
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Jewelers and fools, Pete!
My wife did the same thing with a watch of mine when we were first married. I never saw the watch again as more than just the back flew off and into the ether. |
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storm34
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I'm almost 100% sure Pete is right. I took mine off my Skier about a year ago and this is how I remeber it! |
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TRBenj
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Bingo! There are a bunch of small tabs holding the round cap on- just get a screwdriver behind it and it will pop off. The rest of the metal insert (one piece) is held on with the nut that holds the whole steering wheel on. Once thats off, it comes apart. Be careful pulling the weel... the plastic may be brittle! Ive got at least one of those wheels that's had the metal insert ripped right out of it. |
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Keeganino
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Thanks for helping me try to solve this but there is no center cap. All that chrome is one solid piece. Tim was right, the plastic is very brittle and there is no prying against it. I tried and made a tiny crack. It almost looks like there is a place to put a screwdriver in the picture below but that is just the reflection of the oval with the wood inside. Trust me its all one piece.
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8122pbrainard
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Keegan,
Tim's talking about the very center round cap in the middle and not any metal next to the plastic. |
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Keeganino
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Now that I am looking at this picture I can see that. Now the snow is pouring down so I will have to wait a few days to find out.
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Bremsen
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Just a little tip for when you do get the cap off and get to the nut: don't remove the nut completely, keep it threaded onto the end of the shaft when you use the puller. This does two things; keeps the wheel from flying off and prevents the end of the shaft from mushrooming under the tension of the puller.
I learned that trick the hard way. |
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Keeganino
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I wish I could get out there and lay this steering wheel thing to rest but we woke up to 6 inches of snow and a sick 2 year old. Brought my teak platform in and started oiling it. This afternoon I will start cleaning all the hardware that came off the boat. Thats about all I can do, but it has to be done sometime...
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TRBenj
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I promise that this center cap is removable. |
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Keeganino
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Thanks Tim Its funny but sometimes it is easier to see things in the pictures. After re-reading your last post I was pretty sure that what you have pictured above was the deal. Thanks for making it stupid proof for me. AGAIN!
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"working on these old boats may not be cost effective but as it shows its what it brings into your life that matters" -Roger
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