It should be true

Phil, I've been sitting back for awhile as well watching the comments being posted and I feel the urge to ask you.

If you believe that there is no God then how do you explain how you got here? Did you (I don't mean that personally) evolve from an ape like some have suggested or was there some big explosion and poof you were here?


I'd really like to know.

Morfoot,

Unlike religion, I don't claim to know all the answers which cannot possibly be known. Any scientist must concede that we don't fully understand the universe. However, it's very clear that the bible does not(nor any other religious book) represent our best understanding of the universe.

As far as how we got here, I think the best explanation at this point is evolution by natural selection. Random genetic mutation over millions of years in the context of environmental pressures.


Christians pray all the time. I'm sure there have been situations where parents are praying for their child who has lost a limb. They pray that God allow the limb to be regrown. This happens to salamanders every day, presumably without prayer. Hmm.

Will you even question your faith, your religion? Probably not because your taught not too. This is what makes reasoning with people of faith an impossible task. Essentially, religion is brain washing. After all Christians don't believe Dinosaurs ever existed.

Humans should use the same criteria we use in every other area of our lives to judge the reasonableness of these extraordinary claims and extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

I don't think Religion is as great as you all think it is. Have you any idea how much hatred has been caused by religion? Most wars, the crusades, the inquisition, arranged marriages to minors, 9/11, the suppresion of women, ethnic cleansing, human sacrifice, burning witches, condoning slavery, and Priests molesting children.

My beef is not with any one specific religion. It's religion in general. Though I hold Christians closest because they hold the majority here in the states.

Based on a lot of your locations, I think I picked a religious fight with the bible belt

phospher wrote: I'm an atheist and have been since around the time I stopped believing in Santa Clause

I can handle this discussion about religion. But what's this about not believing in Santa? He brought me a new pair of wake skis last year.

Phil,
I need to back track and catch up with this thread. I appreciate your continued reponse to comments and questions. A note for now is...It is not a fight and you have seen to it, It is a goooood discussion.
bj

This is correct Phil,but as I remember the conversation we had around the camp fire that nite, your life was a WRECK and getting even worse.Possibly the reason for the circle of friends that we had that nite.
There is a lot of life that I cannot change nor have control over, but several phone calls on this subject brought me into this thread.Most are having a ball with you, attitude and views are not well received regardless of what you think.
There are lots here that I do not agree with, Chris and I still go toe to toe, but he and I add to this site.If 79 called and needed me I would be there in a heartbeat, and I think he would do the same for me.
Then there are those that come here to stir s hit or to ruffle feathers just because they can.There are those that I will call PREDATORS,they add no good to the site as to the mission that Keith intended this to be.
You Phil have now been added to this P list in my DATA FILE....With the amount of prayers that were said in and around your boat at the start of every work day and the christian atmosphere your boat was built in, I ask one question.

Why would you own a CorrectCraft, or did you not know the Christian beliefs that the Maloons followed in every aspect of their lives. Sounds like you are the hypocrite,not me.
Too remain true I have one request ................

    Sell your boat and buy a Mastercraft,God is hiding out in your boat waiting to get you.Do it now before it is too late.I could possibly change your life for the better...........

Gotta go/ you are not worth the time nor my prayers.........Billy

Okie Boarder,
      I Love Ya Man!
   Not to short ANYONE else but if you read this whole thing it's EASY to see where people stand. Heck I'm not right half the time but if you don't stand for something you'll fall for anything!

Ok, I don't have a lot of time now so just a quick reply.

BOAT DR,

Don't know what the heck you are smoking or who you think I am but I've never met you, sure as hell never sat at a camp fire with you, and I don't even own a correct craft. Get your head in the game there doc. As I was saying you are a hypocrite.

and "P list in my DATA FILE" ohhhh no, not the P list.


Okie,

Despite our religious views I still have a lot of respect for you. And that goes for most of you. I'm sure you are a great bunch of guys and I know a lot of you are very knowledgeable about inboard boats which is what brought me to this site to begin with. If this thread is getting to out of hand then have someone shut it down. I agree with all of you that no views will be changed and it's not worth getting in a fight about it. But I too enjoy these conversations and am an advocate of critical thinking.

would you boys be considered to be living in the Bible belt? I dont like the no beer on Sunday rules. I BELIEVE, I'll have another one lol,
I watch all these paranormal shows, and ive seen *************** i cant explain and dont question it, your soul leaves your body, some stick around and some go towards the light, beyond the light is what is curious to me....but i hear you get a kitchen pass because God forgives all sins so im pretty much good to go

It has been good for me to read the comments of faith and conviction here and I do not expect to see anyone ones views flip. Never the less if GOD chooses to...

phospher wrote: Will you even question your faith, your religion? Probably not because your taught not too. This is what makes reasoning with people of faith an impossible task. Essentially, religion is brain washing. After all Christians don't believe Dinosaurs ever existed.

Careful here Phil, you're making a few generalizations and when you start doing that your points and arguments become less poignant.

sorry the phone's not ringing. Friendships are earned and long lasting, and why you go to bat for them. Having a conversation with a stranger or aquantints is being respecticfull and polite and is a reflection of ones character and morals neither of which requires a church, temple or place of worship to have or demonstrate.

65 'cuda wrote: The existence of God cannot be proven or dis-proven by science

I can't disprove that there aren't faries either but I'm pretty sure there aren't.

guess if we make it or don't make it past 2012 we'll have a definitive answer then won't we?

Phil,
Humans came up with the definition of "Year" One of Gods' days might be 1000 "years". No one knows for sure and just because you haven't seen a fairy doesn't mean they don't exist.

Curious, if your kids came home and told you they converted to Christianity would you call them what you are calling us CCfans that are Christians?

Do you partake in "Christmas" and Santa Claus (for your kids)? If so then what do you call it.

Billy, I fall way short of making the grade but THAT is the what makes me human. I don't always do the right thing and I always strive to be better but I have personnaly seen a change in people who have found peace in their lives just by watching the Lord at work. I think anyone who has questioned faith and God might take a second look after meeting a man such as Ralph Meloon. That man loves the Lord and you can see it in his eye's and it beams from every pore in his 93 year old body. That is the kind of peace that I want for my life.