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    Posted: March-05-2010 at 11:23am
Eric,
I've noticed you haven't been getting the usual number of questions on trans problems lately. In past years there always seemed be be 1 or more going on at the same time. What's up? Are you fixing those things too good?


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He installed a remote kill solenoid in mine for when work gets slow. Just like my computer repairman that fixed viruses in two of mine in the last week.
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the first thing to go Pete are the boats, no use, no breaking them, i dont want to make you cry but at least you noticed. business is down by half, overhead still the same.....its terrible out there, im sure some others will add on this great economy. Our best year was about three years ago and slid down hill since, thats why im always on the buy american band wagon out front blowing the horn. most of the people I use to deal with came out of the steel mills and car plants, cracking 6 figures and the latest go fast boats.

funny thing though, I thought about you today with the t-8 light fixtures, a salesman came in with sodium Phosphate bulbs?? he gave me 6 to try in one of the fixtures, they were twice as bright. the best line I ever heard came from this guy "I dont sell light bulbs, I sell light"
i told the guy you have a better line of Bulsht than me, I'll give you that. but anyways, I bought a box of 40, he started at 13.00 apiece, but i chisled him down to 8.00 apiece and i did let him know the 6 were free
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Pete, swear to God, I got those bulbs installed late last night, and you have to wear sunglasses, I am truly amazed from these bulbs and probably could explain why I couldnt see anything. they are white light and now you can see all the dust in the place, even floating in the air. I saw that thinking to myself, Im breathing this, they really emit about three times the light
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Eric,
I hope those lamps work out in the long run for you. There are lots of light bulb salesmen out there that I wouldn't call real honest. Look to see if there's a color spec printed on the lamp. Considering you say they are real "white", the number should be 5000 or 6000 kelvin. The higher the number, the closer they are to daylight. Also, there may be a "CRI" rating. A higher number also means a better color rendering. See what they say - I'm curious!

The lamps/fixtures going in my planed shop are T5's and not T8's. They are the latest in fluorescent lamp technology. Banks of 6 or 8 four footers are replacing high bay metal halides with more light output with less watts. I've selected a wide distribution 3 lamp fixture with dual ballasts. This gives me the flexibility of having 1,2 or all 3 lamps turned on per fixture and row for 3 light levels. The calculated is 50, 100 and 150 fc per square foot. 16 3 lamp T5 fixtures are needed whereas 24 4 lamp T8 fixtures to get to the same level. I need to plan ahead when my eye's get to the point of not being the greatest!!

Metalux has a fantastic on line fixture calculator. Put in height, width and depth of the room as well as some other parameters and it gives you the fc and even the spacing of all the fixtures.


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all i know is they did NOT say made in China on them but they probably are, i had a light girl come in with drawings when i built as to where they should go,mine may be t-5's, there are 6 bulbs per fixture. they glow a white unlike the old bulbs of yellow
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Eric,
Easy way to tell which lamp you have is the diameter. "T" stands for "tubular" and the number is in 1/8"s. A T5 will be 5/8" and the T8 will be 1".

All lamps pretty much use the same designation system. The common incandescent "A21" is 2&5/8" diameter.


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they are t-5s cause they are skinny
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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

they are t-5s cause they are skinny


Does this look like the fixtures you have?

6 lamp T5 (F54T5/HO lamps)



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on the money Pete, i know i could find the bulbs cheaper somewhere, but i liked the guy, he wasnt a used car salesman just a man beating the pavement trying to scratch out a living. it was more of a sense that maybe he could feed his kids today....why give more money to Home Depot?
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Eric,
That's not a bad price for the lamps if they give you the life (25,000 to 30,000 hours) and are a decent color rendering (CRI). As the color temp goes higher closer to "daylight", the cost goes up. A normal color of 4K lamps go for about 12 each. 5K lamps 14 each!


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plus it made me feel good to buy something from this guy, I did set him up with one of my close friends who switched his 200k sq ft building, to T-5's also, maybe a sale there for him

Pete I was thinking that its so slow, I am going to go back in the alignment thread and switch the face to face to .050, i feel like the TV magician with the face mask on giving up his secrets lol
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Eric - Don't you also recommend snake oil additives in the tranny twice a year?    How about unhooking the cooling lines so it gets good & hot to dry out the moisture?

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Originally posted by SNobsessed SNobsessed wrote:

   How about unhooking the cooling lines so it gets good & hot to dry out the moisture?


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No, you need the water to keep it cool. A 50 50 mix of oil and water will do it.


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if i was doing this out of my garage here at home, i could make a modest living on the second time arounders from the do-it your selfers, and the snake oil guys who like to add things that dont belong lol
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Pete, pulled one apart yesterday, all new parts, someone had thier fingers in there and had it assembled wrong, I had to laugh and think of the costs to date on this one
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Eric,

I just ordered 15 of the 4-lamp T-5 wide angles for my business, My electrician was really pushing these things hard! Looked at the 6-lamp fixture but it was overkill for my app. Just curious what kinda pricing you got on the fixtures themselves? I ended up at around 6 bucks a bulb (the electrician owed me one) These things made my product look amazing!!

The pic is our test, 4 lamp vs 6, I can only imagine what the 8's looked like! These two fixtures did the work of approx 5 of the old fixtures (metal hilides??)
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at the time, i think 110 apiece with the bulbs, that was 6 years ago
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Sean,
I looked at the high bay T-5's 6 lamp fixtures about a year ago for several areas of the plant. At that time they went going for about $150.

The ones going in my shop are more of a traditional fixture. Wide distribution due to the lower 11' ceiling and baffled to reduce the glare of the typical HO T5 lamp. These are the 3 lamp - 2 ballast fixtures I mentioned in my above post.



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6 per fixture btw, they really highlight areas, i was amazed at the new bulbs compared to the old
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I'm not a lighting expert, so good to know these aren't just something a distributor was pushing on my contractor. I paid roughly the same for the wide angles, hung them at 14.5'. Came out to $200 a fixture with bulbs, so I didn't get beat up too bad I guess!

Is there anything you guys haven't dabbled in?!!

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