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75 Tique
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My son is looking to upgrade his wakeboard. He has moved beyond beginner into intermediate. He has a CWB (I don't recall model right now) which he is finding too thick and too heavy. Any recommendations. Price is a factor. I can't offer him any insights so I was hoping someone here could.
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Morfoot
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Larry, I'm 43 yr old 5'10 175lbs and have been riding LF trip for about 4 years. I've been a LF guy since I've been into boarding and have loved both boards I've owned. I did try others before I purchased to see how they rode but stuck with a LF. Have your son check with buddies or even anyone you happen to run by on the water to see what they ride and how they like it. Most folks have offered me a chance to ride theirs. Some skishops will have "Demo Day's" and offer a chance to try some of the boards they carry for a small fee and take it off the price of a board if you buy it from them. E-bay is where I got my last board. I got a $300.00 board for about $130.00 because it was the previous years model.
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mdvalant
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Loved my LF Evolution board. Right now I ride a Hyperlite Murray...used to ride a premier but it was slow and not too poppy, AND heavy. That old LF board of mine though was probably my favorite.
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TRIP
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What Morfoot says; try (to try) before you buy. There's so much out there and it's all personal preference so it's hard to make a recommendation. If he can try different shapes and different sizes and tell us what he likes it'd make it a whole lot easier.
LF's Trip is (almost) everybody's friend and is very affordable, there must be some '09 closeouts out there. Maybe more important: get some good boots! |
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Okie Boarder
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I ride a LF Lyman and used to have a LF Witness. I like both, but I'm not really sure I could say I notice a weight issue. There are definitely lots of boards out there to choose from and it's tough to choose. Demo is the best. Second best is to have him talk to his buddies. You might try posting on wakeboarder.com or wakeworld.com.
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Okie Boarder
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By the way, what boat is he riding behind in that picture and how is it set up?
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75 Tique
Grand Poobah Joined: August-12-2004 Location: Seven Lakes, NC Status: Offline Points: 6125 |
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Set up??? 76 Ski Tique, no weight other than 10 gallons of gas and a 105 pound redhead sitting behind the motor box. Trouble is the wake is very inconsistent. Since the boat is so light and narrow it tips alot as he pulls back and forth which makes the wake properties vary. But when everything is right there is a pretty good lip and a decent size wake. We certainly aren't at the point of having to worry about a better set up, yet. I kind of chuckle at people that have the $85 grand boats with all the bells and whistles but the riders cant do any more than weave back and forth...might as well be on a ski. Sounds like LF is popular. Unfortunately there are no higher end water sports stores in our area and he really doesn't know anyone that would know or that he could borrow from....except his cousin, who is very much an advanced rider, but he is 4 hours away. Nobody has mentioned the LF PS3, which appears to be one of their higher end boards. I wonder how close it is to the witness. Anybody have any input on the PS3? Another factor, tho not a requirement, is being able to get the board at West Marine, since he works there and gets a decent discount, although their stock of more advanced boards is limited. They do however have the PS3. Thanks for the input so far guys. |
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Okie Boarder
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Yeah, that wake looks pretty good. I bet it doesn't take much weight to cause that boat to displace quite a bit and that's really all that is needed to make a good wake. I bet if you just brought along 1 or 2 extra people it would boost it quite a bit. I would assume you have an extended pylon? It looks like the rope is up fairly high.
I've heard the PS3 is a pretty good board...kind of more in the intermediate to advanced area. I think the edges and rocker are a little more mellow on the PS3 than some, but I've seen a couple guys that are intermediate to advanced riding them and really liking them. Make sure he gets really good bindings too. Now that he is getting to that level he needs maximum support around his foot and ankle and they need to securely hold him in. One foot in, one foot out crashes can do some serious damage. Do you know what bindings come on the PS3 at West Marine? There are all kinds of sources online for good deals. Most places online are closing out '09 gear and I'd bet you can get a better price than he can with his discount. |
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anthonylizardi
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Somebody on this forum recommended the CWB Transcend. I cannot tell you how happy I am with it. I have LF Trip, great board too. The major thing for the Transcaned is the smooth landings, a lot easier on my knees. Also, The board has tons of pops out of the wave. This is a board a almost anybody can ride. You can do anything you want. The bad part, maybe you will have to wait until the winter to get a good price. Usually it retail in the low $400s. I bought a Platimun edition in Jan 09 for $180 off ebay, new one. Definetly is a board he has to put on the try list. Is the one Andrew Attkinson ride but the reason I bought it was mainly for the soft landing. Now, the pop and the air are really impressive. The 2010 mods look like a great improvements. Anyways, this another recommendation.
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05 210
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I have a Witness and a Watson. Both are great boards but I can't get away from the Witness. That is just a great board. Another one to look at is the Obrien Player. Everyone who rode the Player I had(still have) has liked it, though it's not the lightest board. they can be had very reasonably . The trip is also an excellent board and as someone else mentioned, with closeouts he may be able to get a nice set-up as cheap anywhere else, even with his discount at work. I have seen LF Trip board/binding packages at the Kittery Trading Post(in the winter) for short money.....Like 50-60% off short .
Check out Border's Mall (Border's Best Buy). Also, if you are not local to a board shop, I see no problem shopping on Flea-Bay, and I've seen some tremendous deals on there. Mike |
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Bremsen
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I've ridden the LF trip, HL Temet (murray), CWB Absolute (04) and upgraded this year to the 09 CWB trancend. I'm a BIG fan of CWB's shapes and the really loved the old Absolute (almost identical to the Pure of the last 2-3 years). I've only had a couple sets on the new Transcend and I really like it so far. You can really tailor the edge/cut with the fin extensions. I like that I can ride them finless and still get a good edge into the wake. If I were to recommend one board from CWB for anyone (not knowing exactly what they liked in a board) it would probably be the Pure. It really was a great board....and its no surprise they're still making it. I would recommend getting some smaller .75" fins (or riding finless) though. The OE fins keep it locked in too much for my taste (or anyone above beginner level).
I haven't tried any of the modern LF boards so I can't comment. As for deals, he can get the CWBs from West. Or check out boardersmall and evogear for their closeouts. You can also get some good deals from time to time watching boardersbestbuy.com and anothersmokindeal.com |
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rmm025
Senior Member Joined: July-20-2009 Location: West Monroe, LA Status: Offline Points: 148 |
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I have tried several different boards since I started boarding LF(first board don't remember which one), CWB Absolute(didn't like), Hyperlite Murray, Obrien Vision(oldy but loved it for begginers and to intermediate transition) and now LF Substance. I too prefer LF to all. Although I still have the Obrien Vison that I loved for a continuous rocker board, it is now my "boat board". I ride a LF Substance 138 and will eventually go with a Watson when I feel like spending money on a new board. The PS3 is a nice board also, I think it rides similar to the substance with a little variation. You can get some really good deals out there on 1 or 2 year old new boards. I also second getting some good bindings. Once again I recomend LF. A good set of bindings makes a world of difference once you get to the intermediate stage. The whole 1 in and 1 out landing kept me from riding for a couple of weeks one time due to a sprained ankle. I have a pair of older LF transits ltd(camo) in Large/Narrow that are in good shape, they just need new laces. My feet were always to big for those(my feet would cramp after about 15min) and I finally upgraded last summer.
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TRIP
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davidg
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We tried a few last year, and by far preferred the Hyperlite State. My 20 year old son really liked that board. It is an asymetrical board. One edge is cut slightly different than the other to allow for toe side/heel side strengths/weaknesses. A good all around board. Should be able to find good deals on them too.
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rubitlarman
Newbie Joined: May-07-2005 Location: New Zealand Status: Offline Points: 32 |
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I ride a LF Lyman and really love the soft landings it produces, however I do weigh more than your boy would. I had a LF Substance before that which i also loved.
If you wanted to break the mold, you could look at Company |
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More power is needed till the fear of speed is overcome by the thrill of acceleration
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horkn
Platinum Member Joined: September-10-2007 Location: Cedarburg, Wi Status: Offline Points: 1511 |
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75,
I personally like hyperlite wakeboards. They have the best warranty, and the style of ride fits me best. They really do make great boards, and as a testament of how good they are, I still ride my older Scott Byerly signature model hyperlite and it is still in perfect shape. O brien and other brands seem to show wear much easier than hyperlites IME. But, you really should try out as many as you can. if you can find a good dealer, go through them to try out a few brands and styles. As far as the boat set up. I think your hull is like mine on my martinique. You really need to have a few bigger guys at least sit in back, or do what I did and take the seat bottom out in back, and replace it with a fat sac. It's comfy to sit on as it is, and adds a decent amount of weight. I do have a fly high pole, and that works nicely, but one other thing I have in addition to the fat sac seat bottom of wakeboarding is that my redesigned interior/ flooring is probably 500 lbs more than stock. That really helped too. This hull is tricky to get right compared to any of the newer wider boats. Even a regular SN with a fly high is a pretty good rig out of the box, and add a few fat sacs and it is really pretty nice. I have been behind newer SANTE's and while those are definitely nice and effortless, there is something crazy and wicked about the wake that the older boats put out when weighted a bit. |
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78 martinique- refloored, reinforced, stringers re glassed, re engineered interior
GT40P heads Edelbrock Performer intake acme 4 blade http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/horkn/fish/nautique.jpg |
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OverMyHead
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My son found this site and they have some good deals. He is an intermediate and bought a witness that he is pretty happy with.
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TRIP
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+1 for the Witness by the way. Great board, perfect for intermediate riders to progress on.
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cphase
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horkn
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I have ridden a trip a while back. LF does make good boards. That press for 200 is a good deal. Buying a last year model board is always a way to get a lot more board for the money.
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78 martinique- refloored, reinforced, stringers re glassed, re engineered interior
GT40P heads Edelbrock Performer intake acme 4 blade http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/horkn/fish/nautique.jpg |
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horkn
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The house has some great deals too.
Here is a hyperlite for $210. http://www.the-house.com/wkhl42er7zz-hyperlite-era.html All hyperlites have a lifetime warranty, something I don't think any other company offers. I see Scott Byerly branched out and made his own board company a couple years ago. All of his boards are pricey, but I love the way the "butch" designed boards ride. Hyperlite does still have some "butch" designed boards too though. |
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78 martinique- refloored, reinforced, stringers re glassed, re engineered interior
GT40P heads Edelbrock Performer intake acme 4 blade http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v64/horkn/fish/nautique.jpg |
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YooperSully
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Liquid Force Witness is a good model. It's a intermediate board the the pros love to ride. The shape hasn't changed in the past three years so finding one two or three years old for cheap and being new is pretty likely. I rode a CWB Pure last year and am on the Witness now. I do like it and it is lighter.
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82wake2001
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I have rode Ronix for about three years,,Ronix one is my current board and the rocker is insane...
Great pop off the wake.... I am 230 and ride a 141 board.... Make sure he is getting the correct size or it will feel "bulky" |
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henryn
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I would go with liquid force witness.It is an intermediate board which the beginners love to ride.It is quite lighter and i like to ride it a lot.I would recommend this for you.
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dwouncmd
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Larry, if you travel a ways east on I-40 on your way home from work one evening, there is an Overton's showroom in Raleigh. The last time I was in there looking for some other things, they seemed to have a pretty good selection of boards on display (probably ramping inventory back up soon). I didn't really talk with them about their trial/loan policy because I was looking to buy used gear (ending up with the HO Burner). Oh, and you can stop by our house on the way
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JoeinNY
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I am sure Larry appreciates the replies but this post is two and half years old.. I hope he got the kid a board by now.
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Update... 2yrs ago, Larry never bought his kid a wakeboard so the kid got depressed and let himself go...
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75 Tique
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I was going to say something, but I appreciated the replies.(Besides, look at the last line at the bottom of this post)
Fortunately, that did not happen. Now at 19 He is still a rider A periodic slalomer An occasional drummer A volunteer fire fighter (something he got into since moving to NC and he has recently completed EMT traiing as well, in addition to being a full time student) Plus my Number 1 driver. But now I am feeling guilty, as he has done all that with that same old board. Maybe now it's time for a new one...but hey, in addition to all that, he has a part time job. Let him buy his own board. |
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Hollywood
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Plus an ED too or no?
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Bri892001
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Very well placed spam on the spammers part, almost not spam. At least he is selling wakeboards and not knock off watches.
I have a Hyperlite Forefront that I'm happy with, although, it may not necessarily be an upgrade for your son's skill level. The bindings were a huge improvement over my old board. Having comfortable feet makes the whole thing a lot more fun. |
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