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The marina had water about halfway up the roof....fully submerged. Not sure how many of their boats they got out. I "heard" they lost a couple brand new CC's in the show room/shed but not sure if that's true or not.

I agree that it needs to be rebuilt. Too many people's lifestyle down the drain there.
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Missed this thread, been following in the news and on Facebook. Glad all the CCF'rs are okay and safe. It is a shame How did Hartwick Marina fair? Any chance to recover any of the CC that got loose?

Reading some of the news reports sounds like they are still questioning whether they rebuild, placing the decision at the foot of the lake association to fund. That is a bunch of Hooey, especially if the state would not let them open the flood gates. Need to be some serious negotiations going on about that! I sure hope the state or feds come through with some aid, I would hate to see Delhi go away.
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Unbelievable :( I was at Midwest Regionals all weekend and The Delhi team couldn't even attend. Awful situation.

Sorry Hawktique. Marty Menge is there helping out too.
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Thanks for the update Phil, Glad everything on your end is alright. If either of you need a hand this week or next week, let me know and I will gladly come help out.
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Just got back from Delhi. We went from having a lake in front of the cabin, to the highest water levels recorded, to a river that is 10 feet lower than the lake all in 48 hours. Cherie, Helaina, and I are fine and as Josh already said the water got within about a foot of flooding our porch before the road next to the Dam gave way. Josh - that picture of the cabin is amazing considering we should have about 12 feet of bank leading down to the water.

Most of our neighbors on our road were not as lucky as we were and lost all of the contents of their homes or cabins. It was heart breaking to see all of their personal belongings ruined. Thank God no one was hurt in this disaster.

We are hoping that it won't be too long before the lake comes back. Josh - glad you and your Dad are OK. Sorry to hear about your uncle's boat.

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An LP tank leaking as it zips down the river. At least one of these exploded as it went over the dam.


Dock floating next to an air bubble trapped in the canopy of our boat lift.


Aftermath and the sand bar that is where we used to have about 3 feet of water.

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Hang in there guys, that looks terrible.
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Hell, I'm in one of the most remote parts of Whyoming for work and heard people talking about this! It would seen the news does not protray the magnitude of the event. Sorry to hear about your loss.
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Pete,
Some of the pics and articles I found showed that one of the flood gates closed, and I don't know that the others were fully open. Another article stated that they hoped to have the generators back in operation in a couple of years, and there had been some previous damage to the structure form earlier floods this year. They weren't spilling water like they were supposed to be able to do, but there is always the chance that that would not have been enough. Spillways are the last resort and might not have save anything that was on the lake, but may have saved the dam.

Just trying to spread a little insite, lakes are pretty important to most around hear, it will be interesting to get back to work and find out some more.
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That's gonna take a little more than just the usual maintenance. The bad thing is with all the mtg that has left the country nobody has the capability to do some of this stuff real quick anymore. They don't make anything until you order it and then there might be a wait because of the very small staff that they have. The goo news is that it looks like the earten parts are what failed and that can be fixed relatively quickly. Hopefully with the rehab process that was already going on the other stuff will be ready fairly quick.
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Josh, didn't you say they drain the lake once in a while to do maintenance and dredging? Hopefully they can take care of some other stuff while they are fixing the dam. Have you heard of any recovery plans?
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How devestating. Sorry to hear of all the damage.
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Thats unreal! Such a shame
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I'm not sure if there would have been enough time to drain the ammount of water needed to prepare for the surge. Upstream got in the neighborhood of 10" of rain the previous night. Who knows?

Here are some good videos I found.

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Also, here is the level chart, we are now around 10' below the normal level.
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Don,
It's very interesting with you working with dams however I think in this case nothing could be done due to the amount of rain that fell in such a short period of time. Yes, maybe a spillway may have helped pass more water than the actual gates could handle but it looks like no spillway was incorporated in this dam structure. Or, it was removed!! The dam that controls the chain I'm on up in northern Wisconsin, had the spillway removed I'd say 15 years ago when they build a coffer damn and did some HD work on the dam itself. The story I heard is there's no control of a spillway and if it does come to play, the water over it can really affect the people down stream.

I do wonder if Josh's first statement regarding the fact that the officials didn't want to flood out the fair downstream comes to play?? It's a interesting concept and the truth will probably never come out!!

With our problem up north and our extreme 120 year low water this spring the truth did come out. It was a miscalculation/human error!!! Bad snow pack figures!!!


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Wow, that sucks, we had a similar flood about a month ago just north of San Antonio. Same damage and loss of boats but the dams involved are built to have water spill over so they were fine.

With a little bit of looking around it appears that the dam was in bad shape to begin with and they weren't spilling as much as they could have if everything was in proper working order. I work at a a series of dams so this kind of thing is very interesting to me. Our dams were not in the best shape 20 years ago and we began a very expensive project of re-anchoring, rebuilding and replacing almost everything. I live below a lake that holds about a million acre feet of water when full so I really don't want something like this to happen.
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Hopefully everything works out. Good luck.
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Thank you all for the support. On the bright side, this will allow us to rebuild even better. I'm sure we'll get it all cleaned up and ready for 2011. I just may have to hit up the Lake Clinton reunion to get some good skiing in now.
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Originally posted by connorssons connorssons wrote:

Sorry to hear the bad news, if there is anything we can do let us know Jeff


Same here Josh, let me know if you need anything. We'll reschedule our trip this year and hope for Delhi in 2011! Keep us updated with pictures. If you need another clean-up hand give me a call, I already have next week off
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Sorry to hear the bad news, if there is anything we can do let us know Jeff
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Josh, what a bad deal, glad the boat is ok but what a mess to deal with. All the more personal after meeting you at green lake. I know your the kind of guy to handle it though. Best of wishes. Dave.
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This levee blow out is very similar to the lake Delton (Wis.) issue a couple years ago. They got it fixed and the lake was back up to the norm within a year. I'm just saying this so you keep your hopes up for a recovery.


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It was heartbreaking for me to break the news to Storm (Chris Mars). He had the place next to my dads rented for the first week of Aug and looks forward to that trip every year.
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At the end of the day, it's all just money. That's what my dad says. Luckily it's just property loss. I just hope for a speedy recovery of the lake so we can all get back to enjoying boating, no matter what you own.
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I am sorry to hear this. I really enjoyed speaking with you a couple of weeks ago. Glad you and the others are ok, but what a disaster! What awful pics there of it. My thoughts and prayers there to you and the family. Be glad that beautiful boat was not under the lift...
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Josh - What a tragic turn of events.    I have some attachment to the area because I learned to ski at Freddy's beach in 1961.    We also bought our SN from a Lake Delhi resident.

I am glad your boat is OK & hopefully your uncle's is insured.

I have never seen so much rain in July!

Our lake/river is flooded too.

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He is, I'm pretty sure his place was about a foot away from being flooded. I talked to him and he said he was able to get his boat out and docks secured to the shore. I'll be up tomorrow to see where the water level is. It was supposed to crest around 8pm central time. The dame levy failing may have actually saved quite a bit of property damage.
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Originally posted by Hawktique Hawktique wrote:


Phil Thompson (70CC)'s Cabin. He saved his nautique before the flood hit.

Oh man!! I emailed Phil after you first posted the problem wondering if he had a issue. Confirmed he is affected too.


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Phil Thompson (70CC)'s Cabin. He saved his nautique before the flood hit.


This is just after the dam breach.


15min after the last pic.


My boat lift. Thankfully it's in the driveway after GL'10. These pics of my place are 1-2 hours after the dam breach, and the water is down at least 10 feet from in the morning.


another pic of my lift.


unfortunate pic, one of a few CC's.
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It looks very bad on the news. Prayers for all concerned! Please keep us posted and if there is anything we can do!
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Lake Delhi dam news report
What a shame due to officials not letting out a controlled flow.


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