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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

Obviously we have 2 different views creating the same thing that is happening in our government,
Taxes are a part of life, it built this country, your 401 paid everyone's mortgage,
we carpet bombed Iraq for 24 hours a day 7 days a week (imprecisely), you really don't hear about the innocents, the children not fogged with terrorists thoughts....we go in, supply them with better medical than most here in this country have, rebuild them,
we both know we weren't' chasing WMDs,
Im for taking out a country, but for the right reason. people create hate to justify a situation and to relieve your soul of wrong doings. were there, we've occupied and now what?
BTW, North Korea does have WMD, and the means to transport them into this country....the problem with this situation is if you cross over they re border, they do have them and will use them....but if you ain't got em....you cant use em...pretty ironic

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With all due respect for the work you do on our transmissions, and the nice guy I know you are, do you have any proof about carpet bombing Iraq 24 hours a day? I am sure that never happened. North Korea does have WMD and the means to deliver them. They are on notice due to our action in Iraq and A'stan that we will take them out in a heartbeat. They understand the technology gap. There is a lot of "darkworld" things going on vs. Korea due to the insane nature of their closed society that are not known. Also, China throws a large shadow on N Korea. Things in real life are never a one for one.
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Gang,

This is interesting article on Obama printed in Forbes magazine last week. How Obama Thinks

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Gang,

This is interesting article on Obama printed in Forbes magazine last week. How Obama Thinks

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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

if by chance, that lending is still de-regulated, why are the banks locked up tight now? and why is it not business as usual?


Eric The banks like the rest of the buisness world do not like uncertainty and the current regime has created more uncertainty than any other I can remember. Banks are currently able to borrow money at 0% and they are. They are then re-investing in bonds and other guarenteed inveastments. They may only return a few percent but they will not loose and the banks are comfortable with that until they see the effects of sunseting the tax cuts for the rich, Obamacare, the possibility of a double dip recession and deficit spending. I cannot blame them. When you hear about buisnesses hording money this is what they are talking about. Companies are choosing to pay overtime or forgo expanding for the same reason. No one knows what an employee will cost in terms of taxes and benefits two years from now.
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i gotta love the food stamp one, im not here promoting anything Obama has to offer, I was forced to vote for the guy and stating facts, I thought i would never see a black president, he is in there for one reason....the other choice, there wasnt one, or really I was fed up with those boys
I have a feeling if I said the sky is blue, you guys would come back and try to convince me it was yellow. I have lost complete faith in the political system
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I was forced to vote for the guy


Lemme guess, your house got caught in the wind and that loose gutter snagged the lever?!!?
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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

I was forced to vote for the guy and stating facts, I thought i would never see a black president, he is in there for one reason....the other choice, there wasnt one, or really I was fed up with those boys
I have a feeling if I said the sky is blue, you guys would come back and try to convince me it was yellow. I


Eric, Go back and read what some of us were trying to tell you before the election. We were dead on about this guy. We told you the sky was blue but you were so against Bush that you desperatly wanted to believe the sky was yellow. There was a choice. I voted for the least of two weasles. You, your friends and the media fell for the empty hope and change promises and completely ignored this guys radical agenda and background. You should be disolussioned. You were douped and blind and we are all suffering because of it. Someone elso posted a quote here from a foriegn source that said something similar to: America can survive Obamas term but might not survive a voter base that is so ignorant that they would elect him. Being dissolusioned usually means you need to open you eyes a little more because you failed to see things properly in the first place.
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OMH, if Mike tyson ran on the democratic ticket he would of got my vote,
Radical? you shove Bush mentality under the rug, his demeaner has cost 5000 lives already for no reason at all....plus a couple hundred thousand Iraqi lives...his decision to go into Iraq was a personal decision to appease a vendetta....he conned the American people to justify it,
he too looked you straight in the eyes and lied to you, same as being duped...
he would make a great dictator, thank God we are not under that type of government....im sure the bombs wouldve flown by now if he was
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Boys I sure do like what is happening with Delware up there. Tea Party movement is really working on the repbulican party. Some great conservatives running in Novemeber. I really like the woman up there, can not think of her name.
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I really like the woman up there, can not think of her name.


Yea, I will never forget old whats her name.
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OMH, if Mike tyson ran on the democratic ticket he would of got my vote,
Radical? you shove Bush mentality under the rug, his demeaner has cost 5000 lives already for no reason at all....plus a couple hundred thousand Iraqi lives...his decision to go into Iraq was a personal decision to appease a vendetta....he conned the American people to justify it,
he too looked you straight in the eyes and lied to you, same as being duped...


Your Tyson comment proves my point. You would have taken anyone over Bush without any regard to thier political stance. It is like being sick of a cold and opting for cancer instead. And by the way. HE WAS NOT RUNNING. I know you have particularly strong antiwar feelings. I am much more concerned with economic policy, but I will argue the "no reason at all" comment. 9 months into W's presidency 3000 civilians died and two buildings were leveled. Their was not a military target or personel at that site so I dont take much concern with collateral damage that we might inflict. I am not the one to say how best to fight alquida. They are not a country, you have to pick where you are going to go after them, and then they surround themselves with civilians, some co-conspirators and others innocent. I do know that we had to do something. Kevin costners character in dancing with wolves after being raided by the indians said "I have become a target and a target does not make a good impression" In my personal experience I had a bully who in junior high would stick his grubby little fingers in my food and then ask "are you going to eat this" Of course the answer would be "not any more". This went on for way to long with me doing nothing out of fear and the problem getting worse. Finally one day his arm snuck under mine to steal a french frie off my plate. I traped his arm with mine and with my free hand I picked up a fork and drove it into the back of his french frie stealing hand. I took one last back blow for my effort but the problem ended. By the way, by voting in this socialist how has anything changed? He has followed bushes plans with very little change. The surge that Obama said could not work, was just proclaimed a success by...Obama, and he has escalated the war which he calls just in Afganistan. And where are all the antiwar protesters. I would say thier activites decreased by about 90% the day Obama was elected. Your heart may be true, but this shows me that 90% are hypocritcal polotically motivated hacks, or they would be out on the street corners every week like they were in 08. I do not feel I was lied to by Bush except when he called himself a fiscal conservative. If you are talking about WMD's we know they were there because Sadam used them on the Kurds. The toothless UN inspectors were delayed wherever they went offering plenty of opportunity for things to have been moved.
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Originally posted by skicat2001 skicat2001 wrote:

I really like the woman up there, can not think of her name.


Yea, I will never forget old whats her name.


Christine O'Donnell.. Great women, awsome views. Shawn Hannity the man, interviewed her the other night. She spoke of the US Constitution and how the it is the country's backbone and what I stand for. She has got my vote.
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Eric,

If I would have been President during 9/11, I would have either attacked in one way. PUSH THE BUTTON!! But I know some other countries could start shooting so you got to watch. But to me, screw it push the button and drink that oil rag head.

Far as you worried about lives being wasted, people want to die for this country. It is a choice, freedom that we have. Go to Washington at look at the statues in the Monument of those people. It is amazing the people that died for this country because it is so great to live in. We dont need any beurocrats running our country. Most, not all, but most of democrats all have similar polcies and views. Higher taxes, against cap and trade, goverment reform, weak boarders, against war(which makes you a wossie country, and we are not a wossie country, flex your muscles), redistrubute wealth, and of course then also things christians and alot of other relgions are against. Gay marriage, abortion etc. I did not see anything interesting to me in there. Leave Bush alone, he did a good job, I SURE WISH I HAD HIM BACK!!
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did you guys ever consider with the intelligence at the time, we know of at least 20 were involved....19 in the planes and Osama himself, and lets face it to plan something like that another 50 or so had to be involved........that there was not one leak, or even these knuckleheads told them down in Florida we just want to learn how to fly a plane and not land one......maybe just maybe, we knew this was going to happen?
answer yes or no. was it possible that we knew this was going to happen?, after all they tried and didnt succeed in 93 to knock those buildings down and failed.
anyone can answer the question, I hate to say this and I know it was collateral damage and innocent lives were lost.
It was tried in 93 during Clinton, but Clinton sent in guided missiles right into Al Qaeda camps, no troops on the ground and was told to back off killing Bin Laden because of Saudi ties. now Bin Laden waited for Bush to get into office because the results would be an all out ground war, they hit the finacial center crippling it
and This guy aint no dummy knowing Bushes personality, Osama's goal was to drag us into Af-stan and break the country financially.
If someone can convince me that the US government knew nothing at all about 9-11, I'll listen

go to work today and tell one person a secret, make one up...see how long the secret takes to get back to you, its human nature to talk eventually. my point, is we knew 9-11 was on the table

ski, I'll go to the wall, I'll go to Gettysburg, I'll go to Normandy,
weve been a free country for over 200 years last time I checked, its not a freedom fight anymore.
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last time I checked also the country is broke....and thats not because of recent events, you could heat alot of homes if you took that 20 billion a month in cash and burned it in your fireplace...at least you would stay warm,
that kinda cash needs to flow inside these walls on our economy
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Eric, you should stick to the philosophy of foam versus no foam, VD versus PCM, deisel versus gas...
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last time I checked also the country is broke....and thats not because of recent events, you could heat alot of homes if you took that 20 billion a month in cash and burned it in your fireplace...at least you would stay warm,
that kinda cash needs to flow inside these walls on our economy


Eric, I will admit an extra 20 billion in savings could not hurt but we are talking about trillions in increases in our national budbet last year. Recent events my friend are of a much greater concern. Current and future events are going to be worse. Want to talk about a bold face lie how about Obamacare is going to save us money and be budget nuetral.What we will get is either rationing huge tax increases, or most likely both. Future bumber sticker "Obama lied and grama died"
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whew...i just read through this entire thing and I usually stay away from anything that pertains to politics. That said, I agree with Lee. I would have pushed the button the second we saw our buildings going down. This IS about "our Freedom". We still have men and women dieing over there. Bring them home, guard our country and don't try to "fix" theirs. It's religious, they are evil and they cannot be reformed. Mr. Pres. and his crew are doing enough damage at home taking away piece by piece our rights, our money and our decisions - our Freedoms.
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ski, I'll go to the wall, I'll go to Gettysburg, I'll go to Normandy,
weve been a free country for over 200 years last time I checked, its not a freedom fight anymore.


Eric. The fight never ends. Socilism takes away freedom. The Dems are trying to shut down talk radio and take control of the internet. The muslsims hate our freedom. They complain about the mosque not being tolerated at grund zero siteing religious freedom but behead christians for passing out bibles in their home countries. As soon as we believe the fight is not about freedom our freedom will be gone. That is what the tea party movement is all about, as far as our foriegn wars it is about respect. Guys who behead people do not respect diplomacy. You should never bring a nife to a gun fight. You will lose. Send a diplomat to a gun fight and we all lose.
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See Eric. We have the voice of sanity on our side.
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We fought for YOU

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the best offense is defense, I wouldve never let one of our men or woman step on foriegn soil, I just cant understand why you guys and girls cant see what is going on. the towers fell 9 years ago and A crippled mfer is still of this earth, the man responsible for knocking them down...
Iraq? we got those guys thru good intelligence requiring 1 guided missle to get the 2 boys and a group of 10 men to get the leader.
you guys still, still, stilllllllllllllllllllll dodge the question and its for all of you above.
be precise.
WHAT HAS THE GOVERNMENT ACCOMPLISHED IN THE LAST 9 YEARS..,..come on dont be afraid to answer
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Eric, no attacks on our soil.

What do you mean people can't keep a secret? What about JFK, MLK, Roswell and Jimmy Hoffa?
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