Obamarama

did you guys ever consider with the intelligence at the time, we know of at least 20 were involved....19 in the planes and Osama himself, and lets face it to plan something like that another 50 or so had to be involved........that there was not one leak, or even these knuckleheads told them down in Florida we just want to learn how to fly a plane and not land one......maybe just maybe, we knew this was going to happen?
answer yes or no. was it possible that we knew this was going to happen?, after all they tried and didnt succeed in 93 to knock those buildings down and failed.
anyone can answer the question, I hate to say this and I know it was collateral damage and innocent lives were lost.
It was tried in 93 during Clinton, but Clinton sent in guided missiles right into Al Qaeda camps, no troops on the ground and was told to back off killing Bin Laden because of Saudi ties. now Bin Laden waited for Bush to get into office because the results would be an all out ground war, they hit the finacial center crippling it
and This guy aint no dummy knowing Bushes personality, Osama's goal was to drag us into Af-stan and break the country financially.
If someone can convince me that the US government knew nothing at all about 9-11, I'll listen

go to work today and tell one person a secret, make one up...see how long the secret takes to get back to you, its human nature to talk eventually. my point, is we knew 9-11 was on the table

ski, I'll go to the wall, I'll go to Gettysburg, I'll go to Normandy,
weve been a free country for over 200 years last time I checked, its not a freedom fight anymore.

OverMyHead wrote: skicat2001 wrote: I really like the woman up there, can not think of her name. Yea, I will never forget old whats her name.

Christine O'Donnell.. Great women, awsome views. Shawn Hannity the man, interviewed her the other night. She spoke of the US Constitution and how the it is the country's backbone and what I stand for. She has got my vote.

skicat2001 wrote: I really like the woman up there, can not think of her name.

Yea, I will never forget old whats her name.

OMH, if Mike tyson ran on the democratic ticket he would of got my vote,
Radical? you shove Bush mentality under the rug, his demeaner has cost 5000 lives already for no reason at all....plus a couple hundred thousand Iraqi lives...his decision to go into Iraq was a personal decision to appease a vendetta....he conned the American people to justify it,
he too looked you straight in the eyes and lied to you, same as being duped...
he would make a great dictator, thank God we are not under that type of government....im sure the bombs wouldve flown by now if he was

eric lavine wrote: I was forced to vote for the guy

Lemme guess, your house got caught in the wind and that loose gutter snagged the lever?!!?

05 210 wrote: Bumper stickers for your veiwing pleasure. There are some good ones    Mike

I got 2 on order...

And what about the MOSQUE?    Another scar he has put on this great country. Bush would have told them to build some place else.

eric lavine wrote: if by chance, that lending is still de-regulated, why are the banks locked up tight now? and why is it not business as usual?

Eric The banks like the rest of the buisness world do not like uncertainty and the current regime has created more uncertainty than any other I can remember. Banks are currently able to borrow money at 0% and they are. They are then re-investing in bonds and other guarenteed inveastments. They may only return a few percent but they will not loose and the banks are comfortable with that until they see the effects of sunseting the tax cuts for the rich, Obamacare, the possibility of a double dip recession and deficit spending. I cannot blame them. When you hear about buisnesses hording money this is what they are talking about. Companies are choosing to pay overtime or forgo expanding for the same reason. No one knows what an employee will cost in terms of taxes and benefits two years from now.

Gang,

This is interesting article on Obama printed in Forbes magazine last week. How Obama Thinks

Randy

eric lavine wrote: Obviously we have 2 different views creating the same thing that is happening in our government, Taxes are a part of life, it built this country, your 401 paid everyone's mortgage, we carpet bombed Iraq for 24 hours a day 7 days a week (imprecisely), you really don't hear about the innocents, the children not fogged with terrorists thoughts....we go in, supply them with better medical than most here in this country have, rebuild them, we both know we weren't' chasing WMDs, Im for taking out a country, but for the right reason. people create hate to justify a situation and to relieve your soul of wrong doings. were there, we've occupied and now what? BTW, North Korea does have WMD, and the means to transport them into this country....the problem with this situation is if you cross over they re border, they do have them and will use them....but if you ain't got em....you cant use em...pretty ironic

Eric,
With all due respect for the work you do on our transmissions, and the nice guy I know you are, do you have any proof about carpet bombing Iraq 24 hours a day? I am sure that never happened. North Korea does have WMD and the means to deliver them. They are on notice due to our action in Iraq and A'stan that we will take them out in a heartbeat. They understand the technology gap. There is a lot of "darkworld" things going on vs. Korea due to the insane nature of their closed society that are not known. Also, China throws a large shadow on N Korea. Things in real life are never a one for one.

Obviously we have 2 different views creating the same thing that is happening in our government,
Taxes are a part of life, it built this country, your 401 paid everyone's mortgage,
we carpet bombed Iraq for 24 hours a day 7 days a week (imprecisely), you really don't hear about the innocents, the children not fogged with terrorists thoughts....we go in, supply them with better medical than most here in this country have, rebuild them,
we both know we weren't' chasing WMDs,
Im for taking out a country, but for the right reason. people create hate to justify a situation and to relieve your soul of wrong doings. were there, we've occupied and now what?
BTW, North Korea does have WMD, and the means to transport them into this country....the problem with this situation is if you cross over they re border, they do have them and will use them....but if you ain't got em....you cant use em...pretty ironic

Eric, Iraq had WMD, true or false. If you claim false, how do you explain this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_and_weapons_of_mass_destruction
Those are UN statistics. Saddam had WMD. Where did they go? Al Quaeda had everything to do with 9-11 and Al Quaeda was in contact with Iraq over WMD. Al Quaeda is who trained the Saudis and they considered themselves Muslims before any country tie. Saddam was a loose cannon not living up to UN resolutions reguarding WMDs and as president, Bush was concerned about this clear and present enemy and danger to the US possessing WMD. That was the intelligence and that is the connection to Iraq and 9 11. No one lied, that was the best intel of the time. I know you are concerned about our young men and that is admirable, but I do not get the same story from the troops when I visit with them, they are pissed at Obama for leaving them hanging out to dry with politics.
You seem to want to blame the banks for the downfall of the economy. Do you understand what GSE's are? As a businessman, you should do some research there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Government-sponsored_enterprise
This program, going back to 1916. This was a model democrat, old Woodrow Wilson who interjected government into the private business of banking to buy votes. By the time we got to modern history, Barney Frank and Chris Dodd had set up the system so the core Democrat voters would get financing from banks under Fannie May and Freddy Mac or banks would be punished for discrimination. Government should never have interjected itself here and the results were predictable. That is why there is no money out there right now. Anyone with money is holding it, because they do not know how Obama is going to try and get it next to support crack babys.
Look, on the war on terror, it is not going away. The Islamists are out to destroy western civilization, and the "moderate" muslims are just playing the middle. They will attach themselves to whoever wins. We either bring the fight to them and at least attempt to make a foothold of freedom in their country that might spread, or we sit at home sweeping up bomb blasts and crashed airplanes. If the American people are not on board with bringing the fight to the enemy, we should not be there. If this was a mistake, then it was Bush's mistake. I think he really felt that we needed to make an attempt in A'stan and in Iraq. If it was a screw up, it was a screw up out of concern for America's security. Obama only cares about bring socialism here as quickly as possible. He wants you to shut up and color, and you need to bring the fruits of YOUR labor to him so he can "spread the wealth" not to who you designate, but to who will elect him next time.

eric lavine wrote: you guys work the double standard angle to the end, here im saying its not Obama but on the other side of the coin you guys are saying its not Bush. My biggest problem with Bush was going into Iraq, if by chance, that lending is still de-regulated, why are the banks locked up tight now? and why is it not business as usual? believe me I loved Bushes tax cuts, But, that dont pay the bills. I think what it boils down to is the 2 main party system, it just fcn dont work, not in this world, it divides and maybe terms arnt long enough, you get the ball rolling and bam...start all over again. A politician can go 2 ways, into politics or selling used cars (no pun) I guess in a way im just fed up with the entire system, I dont like being a pawn on a chessboard and deals cut in back rooms over a hand shake, lobbyists...i wont even go there, special interest groups, not there either..I will probably vote in the middle in 2 years cause really I cant take either side anymore. this still is a fact, the best times in my life that I will never see again were in the 90's, why i dont know, but finacially they were good times and from about 2002 till present they have been 60 hour weeks for the same money and...what more can I say, I think most will agree

Did you watch at all some of the horrific *************** that happened on 9/11 on the history channel. They played back the orginal calls from the planes with the highjackers, showed callers calling from the floors on the twin towers, they where burning and no way out. And we had no reason to go to Irag. Well aint that some *************** Eric. Then what where we suppose to do, stick a finger in our ass and send them a pot roast. Bush did what was needed. You attack America, we fight back with vengance. Other countries want what we got. FREEDOM! FUK-EM! Lovee Bush, sent a tear to my eye when he showed true American pride and said "We will be at War with the terriosts and Irag to find who had done this act"!! Go get em Bush! Do what ever it takes. You got one American on your side...
It is amazing, and just so sad what those people went through. Some people just dont remember.

Greg of course i know, fool me once....this time I would take the money and run lol
you gotta love the new Geico commercial, Abe Lincoln is the back ground and Mrs. Lincoln asks if she looks fat in the dress....he pondered, and gave her the truthful answer

eric lavine wrote: why are the banks locked up tight now? and why is it not business as usual?

Seriously, you don't know?