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who's funding them now?
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now if that happened, it would be another JFK scenario...you dont mess with someones money. you know, people really do get killed over 20 bucks on the street
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WE funded them when they kicked the Soviets ass.
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Sooooooooo, we let 5000 18 year olds die in the past 9 years, is that a turn the other cheek policy too?
these boys and girls didnt even get a chance to start thier lives.
basically these countries are a blip on the map, no Navy no organized type of military, radical Islams,
funny how new plans were uncovered recently for new terrorist plots, so the war on terror is not working because they are still creating terror.

You asked me a question about the 3000 that died, I pondered,
was it something that are government did directly or indirectly to piss them off, Yes. Do I think in some form, our government new about this? yes, impossible not to.
they kicked Russia's ass and sent them running in thier panties and they are a pretty big country. so somebody is funding these guy's, because lets face it, its a pretty big dessert
What would I really do? Id Agent Orange the poppy fields, every last one of them....but again, maybe its like Dorothy running in the fields in the movie.....just imagination



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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

why do you have so much trust and faith in the ones in charge? we stopped terroism and nipped it in the bud...I dont think so, what happens when you steal the queen of the beehive?


Personally I dont go near behives let alone look inside one for a queen. If I had an issue with one I would just toast the whole thing. Maybe there is a lesson there.When a group of the little @*#$@*^$ moved into my trailer tongue, I only had to get stung once. And then I did not look for the leader. I did not negotiate, I let them no who was the baddest boy on the block. Raid wasp and hornet spray...wmd's for bees.
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This Is why the founders advocated limited government. You have to keep it small enough that the citizens can keep an eye on it. There are things we can do as individuals and small groups that we should do, that includes providing for ourselves,helping those that cannot provide for themselves, and educating our kids. Things we can not do effectivly ourselves include national defense and foriegn policy. When you give the goverment control of to many things they can play slight of hand. "watch my left hand full of dollars for you while my right hand steals your wallet". How much attention would be placed on forign policy if it were the only responsibility of those we were voting for. Instead we vote for presidents based on medicare, heathcare, abortion, and everything else it has gotten its grubby hands on that it had no business doing in the first place.
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Eric, the real question is why would you take a group you believe let 3000 innocents die for political gain and then trust them to be ethical with your health care? Social security? Medicare? education? Are they corrupt only concerning foriegn affairs?
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why do you have so much trust and faith in the ones in charge? we stopped terroism and nipped it in the bud...I dont think so, what happens when you steal the queen of the beehive?
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Eric. We all heard about Cathline Raliiegh. This jas been examined to death. The Clinton adminidtation desimatted our intelligence capabilities in numbers and restrictions Zach the 13th was arrestd in MPLS and they could not tell anyone or get a warrant to open his laptop. They could hve known but choose to give terrorists more rights than we have.
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omh, are you still saying there was not one bit of intelligence or not even an idea that 9-11 was a surprise?
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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

it was a little easier to sneak up someone in those days, thousands died on that beachhead because the Germans were prepared and ready for the invasion,


Prepared, ready and yet still surprised. 5000 ships "snuck up" at normandy while the german forces were at Pas de Calais.
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There where 2 shooters in JFK'S death. Common since guys.. One bullet went in one way, and another bullet enterd from the front. Lee Harvey just the one who got caught. Suprised Obama has not been next. I do not wish that on the man, but am very suprised.
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I kinda agree to the point of inflicting democracy on people that really don't want it. However helping those that desperately would like it but are not strong enough to take over what regime is there is a different situation. For the most part we get too involved in too many places and end up getting s*&t for it.

On the other hand the new Kume Ba Ya approach is making us laughing stocks throughout the world. It is like America lost it's balls.

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I dont know who shot JFK, but i have a pretty good idea why he got shot. it really is hard to debate Bush with you Hard, I dont hate the guy, hate really is not in my vocabulary, I dont hate Obama, I pay my taxes sometimes late but they get paid lol, but we do live in a great land that was chiseled from the battles a Gettysburg, Iwo Jima, Normandy and even using WMD to end a war and it was all justifiable...I just have a real hard time with this spreading democracy thing, its not our job. Maybe just maybe no one knew about what was going to happen on that fateful day in September, my hates are off to any soldier involved in the spreading of democracy...plain and simple though in my eyes it was handled differently and we put lives in harms way. I have a real hard time believing that the gov new nothing about 9-11. its almost impossible and at the time whether it be weapons inspectors running around a country coming up empty handed, or flying planes into a building it was inevitable we would have a presence there. not one thing has been gained from going over there except for a stronghold, Did we go after Sadaam because of oil or because it was a personal vengance? Is Bin Laden a no toucher because of his Saudi ties? I dont know and I break down the whole scenary and think outside the box. But I'll tell you one thing I sure have a hard time believing it, there are guys with billions of dollars on the line and that creates hate and greed and whoever at the end of the day has more of it is the winner
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We are not comparing apples and oranges, just trying to point out how far in the sand your head is at.

You problably want to accuse Cheney of shooting JFK.
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it was a little easier to sneak up someone in those days, thousands died on that beachhead because the Germans were prepared and ready for the invasion, without satelite technology.
as for Pearl harbor, war was imminent and that to drug us into war. the Japs went after the naval fleet to cripple it because of this.
you guys are comparing apples to oranges.
its funny how technology let us get to the moon, but it cant get a cripple in a dessert, or listen in on a cell phone conversation...and this is 40 years later....what did those 19 hi-jackers communicate with 2 cups and a string?
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And Roosevelt planned Pearl Habor?

We've never been to the moon. NASA and Walt Disney did that whole gig out in the desert.
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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

how possibly could you not think its not possible?, this was a major operation and there was not 1 single leak to US intelligence


Remember D-Day, Thousands were involved.
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As for the Walmart, I agree. If the terrorists would have hit a dozen small venues all over the country everyone would have been afraid to go outside their homes.

As for jumping out of the chair, The man had the foresite to not give cause for panic. You can have yore opinion of Bush, but time will show he had much more class than those in office immediately before and after him.
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you would only jump if you were surprised though
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why not hit a Walmart? better yet corporate Walmart, shut em down for a few days. btw, I wouldve jumped out of that chair, told the teacher to buy the kids some ice cream cause i gotta go, such the humanatarian
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Eric. I suppose you think the Pentagon needed some remodeling and Bush said let's just fly another plane into the building and blame it on terrorist, and then we'll just crash another as a decoy.

Even a true Bush hater like yourself can't really think this was possible. You didn't like his reaction when told. What did you expect him to doin front of a classromm of kids? Maybe he should have had Sadam, and Osama, and Joe Biden on the west lawn for some beers and talk about it.
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I'll be cheesy though and ask how much to keep quiet lmao
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I keep talkin sht, I might get a visit lol
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how possibly could you not think its not possible?, this was a major operation and there was not 1 single leak to US intelligence?...one would think that when he tried to knock down the building in 1993 and didnt succeed that every move he made from that point on was watched, that was the mission in 1993, to disupt the fianacial epicenter of this country...why not fly into an open stadium? they were not looking to kill people...they were looking to cripple the country as a hole and drag us into war...
you cant say the US did not know anything about the events, to many cards stacked the other way. I remember seeing Bush in that chair at the school and he did not react as one should..All I kept thinking was that guy whispering into his ear...in some form of code name...its a go
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Eric, The guy is also says the holocost never happened.he is a certifiable nut job. So if you and he are on the same page about 911.................
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any news of what Iran's President is suggesting....funny how we were talking about 2 weeks ago...
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im voting for the daughter on dancing with the stars lol, little junk in the trunk
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