86 SN rebuild

Keegan, thanks for the reply.

That's great about your stepson. My son hasn't ridden a kneeboard yet, but is already saving for one. I told him that if he saved enough for half, I would kick in the balance.

As far as reels or ropes, here is my weekend plan! Wake up at 4:30, be out at first light with the reels. Catch as many as we can. Go in around 9:00. Leave at 10:00 with the nautique to ski, float, ski, and relax. Take a nap at 2:00. Go back out at 4:30. Fish the evening bite, then do it all over again the next day. Sounds good doesn't it?

Come Monday, I will try to catch up on my sleep at work

Jeff

No, I'm not going with foam.

All of the stringers are being made out of 2X fir. The blocks and built up areas will be out of 1X fir. I bought the lumber from a local yard who had some very nice material. They would of ordered me some vertical grain stock, but I thought the stuff they had was good enough. Actually the grain pattern was close to vertical on most of the pieces anyway.


Jeff

We started around 2:00 and completed the fillets on the secondary and finished grinding the hull. At least it looks like we are making progress. A couple of things to note, were the bilge bump pad and rudder log were wet.

While grinding in front of the pylon cup, I hit an area where water was still setting. It looked like it was coming around the pylon mount, which started at the bilge pump pad. The more I grinded, the more pockets I found. It was enough water that I had to stop and soak it up with rags.

Also while grinding around the rudder log, I found several air pockets. As I dug deeper, some still had water in them. The rudder log is not rotted, but does look like it was wet a time or two. So out it will come.

Question: What has some of you done about the bilge pump pad. I'm not really sold on the idea of laminating wood into the hull, just to put a couple of small screws in.

I've come to the conclusion that anyone who thinks their pre 93 natique is solid, is just fooling themselfs. The design of these boats simply allow too many entry points and you really do not have any idea until you start grinding and cutting.






Now that we have the secondary bedded, I am hoping that I can get the main scribed to the hull before the weekend. It would be great to get the main in this Saturday.

This brings up another question. What do you think about bedding all of the stringers before doing the glass work?

Thanks for everyone's help.

Jeff

Jeff, is it an optical illusion or is the new secondary stringer higher than the main?

Fl Inboards wrote: B: Bust O: Out A: Another T: Thousand

Jody,
Did the boat repair shop on "Pawn Stars" get that saying from Florida Inboards?? You do seem to take on some "high end" projects!

B: Bust
O: Out
A: Another
T: Thousand

more likely than not a rebuild of this magnitude is in my future...i really appreciate all the details and photos...keep up the good work

From what people have said it seems that a mixture of the 2 makes a very strong, easy to use consistency. While the milled fiber makes it stronger the cab thickens better so you are probably right about the fillets. I repaired my bucket seats before I bedded or filleted anything which gave me a chance to experiment with it before I got to the real part. I found that the bilge side fillets are the hardest to do because it slopes downhill so you have to be sure you make the mixture extra thick there.

TRBenj wrote: Use some sort of drain plug on his stringers like you have on the transom?

Tim - Funny you mentioned this. On my previous (OB)boat I rebuilt the transom, which included a 'drain pit'. Since I had previous trouble with water & mice getting up into my foam (up under the floor) I glued in some PVC tubing in the bulkheads & used those small cam-lock drain plugs.

I was just saying it has be convenient to put openings under the stringers where they meet the transom. ( as long as they are sealed properly.)

I haven't had any problems with getting wanter out of the boat. But I'm sure it would be a pain of it lived on a lift and I couldn't pull the plug on the ramp.

Ranger wrote: I do have another question. They seem to never end. Since I plan on bedding the secondary this weekend, can anyone give me a hint on the mixing ratio for adding mil fiber to epoxy and what is the optimum consistency? I am also thinking about 4 or 5 cinder blocks as weight. Will that be enough? Thanks again, Jeff

I was told equal amounts filler and resin, but to really get it thick it seemed to take more than that using the cabosil. A firm peanut butter consistency will make it easier for the epoxy to fill any gaps. It gets runnier as it starts to kick so keep that in mind. I used a lot more weight than a few cinder blocks, but 6 or 8 blocks would surely do it.

Jeff, sorry for the thread jack....just seemed like it could be a viable option if you wanted to have access to the outer sides of the mains for your cradle.

Jeff, no offense taken. I do think that if you can guarantee your boat will never get a piece of debris in the bilge then you will be fine... I must use my boats too much be at that comfort level.    Like I said, Im in the minority with this- just something to think about.

8122pbrainard wrote: Tim, You allowing debris to dirty up your bilge??? There must be someone else who is using your screen name!

Yes, I have to admit Pete that a dryer sheet or 2 (my critter detterant during winter storage) has escaped my attention. And yes, I have found leaves in my bilge too. Maybe its because I winterize during the FALL, instead of the summer.

Chris, the whole point is to not allow water under the floor in the first place! I do not intend to have to drain, ever... but in case I do, I can. Basically the same as a foam rebuild, except you can get the water out if it finds its way in. It seems like inviting it up there via the bilge is asking for trouble... all it would take is a misplaced dryer sheet or a few errant leaves to block a drain located out of reach and youre in trouble. I dont neglect my stuff either, but things like that make their way into my bilges from time to time. Maybe Im alone on this one, but draining 50 gallons of water from a '65 CC with a plugged drain was not a pretty sight.

As far as no-foam constuction and a drain hole in the transom being factory work in 1970, I have a pretty hard time believing it. My understanding is that foam became standard equipment around the '66-67 timeframe. Ive yet to see a CC with a drain plug like that... maybe someone here can clarify.