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Does anybody remember the reason given for the establishment of the Department of Energy, during the Carter Administration?

We've spent several hundred billion dollars in support of an agency, the reason for which I could not remember.

It was The Department Of Energy instituted on 8/04/1977, TO LESSEN OUR DEPENDENCE ON FOREIGN OIL. Pretty efficient???

NOW IT'S 2010, 33 YEARS LATER, AND THE BUDGET FOR THIS "NECESSARY" DEPARTMENT IS AT $24.2 BILLION A YEAR. IT HAS 16,000 FEDERAL EMPLOYEES AND APPROXIMATELY 100,000 CONTRACT EMPLOYEES; AND LOOK AT THE JOB IT HAS DONE!

33 Years ago 30% of our oil consumption was from foreign Imports. Today 70% of our oil consumption is from foreign imports.

Now, Thanks to the Obama Administration on a House and Senate spending spree agreed to HAVE THE BANKING SYSTEM, HEALTH CARE, AND THE AUTO INDUSTRY MANAGED BY THE SAME GOVERNMENT System.
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Some of yall need to think more like Andy and Kevin...

Thanks Andy..

Now you know why and how Obama got voted for. Our ignorance shows sometimes.

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Originally posted by 05 210 05 210 wrote:

Originally posted by OverMyHead OverMyHead wrote:

Instead people sit on the government entitlement programs and just demand more.


   and to quote Gerald Ford:

    " A govt. big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have"

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Originally posted by phospher phospher wrote:

Originally posted by 65 'cuda 65 'cuda wrote:

Half of American households get Govt benefits, HALF...think about that.

Source: Entitlements grow


Yeah, that is staggering. The article also goes on to say, "More than half of U.S. workers don't earn enough to be taxed"



Are you saying this is a good thing or a bad thing?

On the whole Christine O'Donnell thing, I heard a couple sound bites the other day that absolutely cracked me up. Here are the two things that caught my attention:

1. Her opponent could not correctly name the 5 freedoms the 1st Amendment protects.

2. She was correct and her opponent incorrect about the fact the Constitution says nothing about "Seperation of Church and State".

It's funny how people who actually know the Constitution and what it says get bashed on. Is that because it doesn't help serve the agenda of those that are trying to convince us it says something different than it does?
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George Bush Stimulis pakage = I got a check fro $300
Obama Stimulis pakage, my healthcare and tax bill went up.

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Obama, I can't afford to get a headache,
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Originally posted by OverMyHead OverMyHead wrote:

Instead people sit on the government entitlement programs and just demand more.


   and to quote Gerald Ford:

    " A govt. big enough to give you everything you want, is big enough to take everything you have"

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just once please say, yes Bush lied
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ski, I would tend to more believe the show was created to create a dis-illusion to promote as did the 2000 bug...again, was there wmd's....NO
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Originally posted by OverMyHead OverMyHead wrote:

Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

so we are turning ourselves into a socialized governtment? it seems alot are relying on the government these days


Unfortunatly it has to be payed by someone and those in the privat sector will bail as their costs increase and rewards decrease leaving a massive system with no one to pay.


...And for these people they increase taxes. That's ral fair!
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ski, directly or indirectly..they did
its amazing what people dont believe

I suppose to this day you believe there was WMD, you were told that so i suppose you believe that....what this thread is about is the loss of trust in our government and the shysters running it.'
I loved Billy Clinton, but he denied and denied to the bitter end, and i Can still see his face on the boob tube, I knew right then he was lying just as i did when Bush was told the planes hit the towers....but again people in that type of power dont lie
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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

so we are turning ourselves into a socialized governtment? it seems alot are relying on the government these days


Turning ourselves into, or being turned into buy our leaders? The democratic strategy has long been to create a dependant class that is a built in voter pool. Providing just enough benefit that makes it hard to take a minimum wage job, and escape the system. Instead people sit on the government entitlement programs and just demand more. Add the every expanding payroll of government jobs and you getover half of americans benefiting from bigger goverment. Unfortunatly it has to be payed by someone and those in the privat sector will bail as their costs increase and rewards decrease leaving a massive system with no one to pay.
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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

im going to see if i can be Jesse Ventura's side kick on his new show "conspiracy theory" I was glued to the TV last night, underground bunkers for 2012 for the rich, global warming.
the taboo has been placed on conspiracy's over the years, kinda like the boy that cried wolf, but one day the boy did get ate by the wolf


Eric,

We have our views and they are very different, please do not tell me you beleive Ventura's therory about the GOVERMENT CAUSED 9/11/2010.
When that dumbass put that on television I about myself out the chair.

It is amazing what people believe and will put on the tv. I guess people do not or ever think "outside the box"!
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I didnt speak of she was my girl phosper. You where blasting in your post Shawn Hannity. Or did I read that wrong.

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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

so we are turning ourselves into a socialized governtment? it seems alot are relying on the government these days


I dont need them! They can go hell far as I know.
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Wow! That is a sad sad video. She and Palin should have a sleepover and discuss the "Constitution". That chick is like a parrot and has no knowledge behind the sound bytes. What a joke!!!!!

The fact that half of the workers in the US do not even make enough to be taxed also speaks volumes. If all you can earn is minimum wage and you have 1 child how could you not be on some sort of gvt assistance. Free lunch at school, daycare, and housing will all be subsidised in some way if all you take home is minimum wage.   Its just not enough to live on- period.
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skicat2001, Here is your girl, just like her friend Palin. Retarded.

Funny, Christine O'Donnell blanks on First Amendment.

http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/2010/10/20/ac.odonnell.constitution.gaffe.cnn?hpt=C2
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so we are turning ourselves into a socialized governtment? it seems alot are relying on the government these days
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Originally posted by 65 'cuda 65 'cuda wrote:

Half of American households get Govt benefits, HALF...think about that.

Source: Entitlements grow


Yeah, that is staggering. The article also goes on to say, "More than half of U.S. workers don't earn enough to be taxed"

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Half of American households get Govt benefits, HALF...think about that.

Source: Entitlements grow
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Originally posted by OverMyHead OverMyHead wrote:

Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

btw, right now is not a good time for tax cuts.


Why the he!! not?

Because you can't give healthcare, campaign all over the country, benefits to unemployed, welfare, illegals schooling, foodstamps, take vacations with family & friends, bail out banks, auto companies, and be on TV everyday and expect to give tax breaks too!
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Originally posted by skicat2001 skicat2001 wrote:

Hitchens? What a fking joke?? Give me a break, he is in same line as Woppie freking Goldberg. Both dumb asses that dont see the real point.


He is a joke with regards to how he supported the invasion of Iraq. Other than that his knowledge on history and religion are second to only a few. And he is certainly regarded as an intellectual.

And what is the "real point" you speak of?
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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

btw, right now is not a good time for tax cuts.


Why the he!! not? It is a great time for spending and tax cuts. Every time taxes are reduced the economy grows and government collections go up. It has worked every time. Unemployment is climbing to near ten percent again, we have staqgflation, and more people on food stamps than ever before. Time to stop punishing businesses and succesful people. Motivate them and let them lose. Obama admitted there were no shovel ready jobs. We sent medicare stimulus checks to dead people and prison inmates. Obama said he would not rest until the economy was fixed but instead he has taken record numbers of vacations and played over 50 rounds of golf in less than two years. Governments solutions are not working. Time to give us hope and change back to policies that work, not just reward unions and political allies.
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Hitchens? What a fking joke?? Give me a break, he is in same line as Woppie freking Goldberg. Both dumb asses that dont see the real point.
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Originally posted by skicat2001 skicat2001 wrote:

Originally posted by OverMyHead OverMyHead wrote:

Originally posted by skicat2001 skicat2001 wrote:

I really like the woman up there, can not think of her name.


Yea, I will never forget old whats her name.


Christine O'Donnell.. Great women, awsome views. Shawn Hannity the man, interviewed her the other night. She spoke of the US Constitution and how the it is the country's backbone and what I stand for. She has got my vote.



Ha ha, Christine O'Donnell? The witch? Really? And Hannity? You should watch Christopher Hitchens B-smack him. Hitchens Hannity
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Originally posted by 89Ski_Nautique 89Ski_Nautique wrote:

Within two years of his administration, first the White House Chief of Staff resigns and now the National Security Advisor to Obama resigns today.

Looks like the "Rats are Leaving the Sinking Ship"!




Your memory is very short.

Forty-two Bush Administration appointees resigned over the 8 years Bush was in office. Do some research and look at how corrupt a lot of those people were that resigned. Remember Scooter Libby G W's Boy?



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I'll use a word that comes up often.. "not on my watch"
If i do recall...... maybe that was pre voodoo obama, He jumped back into the past '
Bush, sure good for personal gain monitarily, as for the country, he gets an f minus.'
btw, right now is not a good time for tax cuts.
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Originally posted by eric lavine eric lavine wrote:

I was referring to my 401 btw, snuck in and took it. I would rather pay a capital gains tax than get clipped for 40%.


So, what does that have to do with the "Bush Tax Cuts"?
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wrestler gone bad? actor gone bad over there in Cali? you boys out west might be smoking bud legally by year end
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