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you need to go on dancing with the stars, you sure can dance lol.
actually, I rather see UE bene's going to these guy's because it keeps the money in the confines of our great country, we still gotta eat, pay the car payment, fix the car.

what about the war?, dont do the Tango?

Speaking of war Eric, here's one for an old arguement of yours...

The teen trash tree bomber they recently caught was charged with possesion of and intent to use...you guessed it-WMD's.

Greg, how could that be, we are a safer America....thats what we are fighting for isnt it?

OMH, the economy is very fragile and delicate, I dont necessarily agree with the bank bailouts, the problem i have is what would be the end result of not bailing these guy's out..you have to kick start the economy by putting money in the hands of people, keeping the unemployment money flowing is crucial to the economy....i dont really want to know what would happen if we cut off these people from unemployment, I pay into unemployment and i know it has increased. most truly cant find jobs and need the help until the cycle turns, hopefully for the better,these are the times we will remember when we are old and grey. I dont think the government no matter who is in charge wants to see the economy collapse.
What I do see is more education of why we are in the position we are in and catch the little things and people are starting to realize we cant sustain or maintain the direction we are heading.
The majority of the unemployed are honest hardworking people, they arnt taking the money and going down to the corner to crack up, they are paying their bills to survive to eat, but i think with that comes a sense of pride that later on in life they will appreciate and reflect on those hard times as do our grandparents who nested cash away who lived thru the depression, maybe in a sense you dont know what you have until it is gone, it will create a better society for the most part in the long run

So Democrats come out beeitchen about what the tax breaks are going to cost and yet they want to add bennys to ethanol, rum, nascar and God only knows what else before they can vote yes Go figure!

We are addicted to deficit behaviour - this was just our latest fix. More to come I am sure . . .

I know the world is 1 bullet less with Madoff.

you know OMH, you hear everyday about the big busts being made about cocaine, maryjeewanna, 50...60 tons, so easily smuggled into this country, But, from a far away land, across a great big ocean, they easily seem to smuggle opiate products, ie. morphine, heroin, into this country....why is that?

Let's take the guy in charge of the DMZ between N/S Korea and put him in charge of the Mexican boarder. He seams to be doing a good job keeping the communists out of S Korea!

thats due to the 80% of 300,000 new hires, they clipped me, they always do....current once again. lol
I say put the 57 Billion to the unemployed to get back on their feet again, hard to get the democrat out of my blood

eric lavine wrote: Now on the other hand if someone came to me and took everything i owned except the clothes on my back, I would smile wake up the next morning open up the paper, get a job, and eventually re-plenish the barrel again.

I think you'de be seriously PO'd. I seriously doubt you'd wake up with a smile. Maybe if we're ever at a reunion together, I'll steal your wallet and see if it leaves you smiling.

Eric, I never heard your thoughts on this, which to me is key.

OverMyHead wrote: We have now made government the "employer" of choice for the unemployed. The problem is the govenment does not produce anything to make income to pay these employees, so it has to take from those that do(businesses in the form of unemployment payments) to make payroll. This leaves less money for the business to create its own payroll. Increasing costs on business is not the way to end unemployment, in fact it is the way to increase it. Meanwhile those unemployeed dont have to face the real dicisions about the new economy and take realistic jobs.

I was just talking to a carpenter who was back to work today after seven weeks of unemployment. He said it was "To short" and that he came out ahead on unemployment becasuse he stayed home with the kids and saved on daycare, he wants to go back on unemployment but his company now has too much work. He is planning to have a carple tunnel surgery done after working a few weeks to make the work comp look legitimate and is hoping to be off for 6 months. People are milking the system because it is comfortable and its costing businesses growth opportunity which the economy desperatly needs.

sorry for the profiling, but you ask these guy's why they do it and they say because all the African Americans do it, busht, what does that make them, same mentality

It's kinda right up there with the ones that look like they could run a 4 min mile and have a handicap plaque hangin in the windshield. They might have a old sick mommy at home, but if she ain't in the car the plaque shouldn't be displayed.

Yes but what about the program paying rates comfortable enough to keep people on it while taking the money away from employers and thus reducing growth and employment opportunities. Can you not see the cycle this creates? We are devastating our employment situation by continually proping up the unemployeed, if they havent found a job in six months then their expectations must be too high, and they will not lower them till their unemployment expires.

OMH, have you looked at the Sunday classifieds lately? unemployment is a vital part of the puzzle to create jobs, keeps the drug dealer busy so he can buy an Escalade with nice shoes and a bone hole. really though there are many out there that need that temporary fix until they seek the right employment, you got guys that were busting 100k and are looking for those 100k jobs and after time they are starting to realize there just are'nt those type of jobs out there, they get to the end of the line and then they must take a job, re-evaluate their lives and adjust the money going out, down size and live within their means

Looks like the Senate and the House have both passed the bill and it is headed to Obama for a signature.

Here's something interesting...

My Dad and I were talking last weekend about the extension of the current tax plan and its effects on the economy. He was telling me he was watching Neil Cavuto and Cavuto had a guest on the show that falls into the "rich", business person category. The question was posed to him about how the passing of this bill might effect his strategy moving forward regarding hiring, etc. The answer was that it won't change a thing in the way he is operating the business right now. He went on to explain that although this removes some doubt as to the upcoming business climate, since it is only an extension for two years, it doesn't give him much confidence for stability past that. Changing your hiring policy for a two year period of time isn't very smart business and can come back to bite you in ther butt. I wonder how many businesses are thinking this same thing. If it is a majority, you won't see much of a change in our current situation.

For me, personally, I'm glad they are staying in place because I can maintain status quo. I'm not going to run out and stimulate the economy, but I know I can continue my recent spending and saving pattern. If they had been left to expire, that budget plan would be reduced and I would be spending less to maintain the same level of savings I've been doing.