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eric lavine
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on some of the older OMC's the entire engine drive package is supported by the transom, so to trim the boat the engine will go up and down with the drive. but on the mercs, the back 2 engine mounts rest on the inside gimble mount, but still at the top on the outside of the drive the force is being pulled out. you surely can deviate from factory on this one, at times over the years ive even aluminum plated on the inside on the last piece. this is one place strength is important
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Keeganino
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Yep the resin is the glue. Weights or clamps depending on size and shape of pieces you are laminating. I did not glass any pieces before attaching them to the hull. I used cabosil thickened epoxy to attach to the hull. As it squeezed out I used the excess to make a fillet. Then I covered them with 2 layers of biaxial. Your transom might need an extra layer of glass given your application. Three layers of biax is super strong. |
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Keegan, Nice work!
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connorssons
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Good afternoon! took some advice of you fine fellers again, made the 1st piece of transom support wider than original. made it as wide as flat part of transom permitted without bends, then cut smaller gimbal plate pattern for 2nd layer. here is a pic of template made with construction paper and hot glue, the part with an x will be cut out to make the 2nd layer. these pics are of the finished product prior to cpes. there is drywall screws temparaly holding it together, i will also use these when joining the 2 pieces together then removing. Eric thanks for suggesting the planer, I cleaned the transom in less than 1 hr. I owe you a case of beer of your choice i was not looking forward to that job. jeff
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It looks bulletproof.
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eric lavine
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chico's kid? looookin goood,
did you understand about pre drilling the 6 transom bolts that hold the drive and also using them as clamp bolts? also i will cut my opening small and sneak in with long vice grips, also too utilizing the u-bo;t holes too for bolt clamps. I dont think you'll want to use clothe between the layers, coat all sides and then scuff with 36 or 80 for the bonding to the transom, coat the edges very well because thats where it will soak and pull water, use the cloth (heavy woven) on the edges running it to the corners. I see you screwed the second piece on, you need to bond that piece also. |
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Hay Eric! yes the second piece will be bonded, screws were for fitting and bonding perposes only, have all pieces cpes,d and ready to bond yes i understood on the clamping thanks, do ya use heavy cloth all the way across or just on the edges. jeff
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Looks great!
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After hitting the boat show in FT Wayne yesterday. decided i cant afford a new ride . so i did about 4 hrs of grinding today on the old sep. no that aint snow on me either
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Keeganino
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Wow you are a real man. I wore tyvek suit for grinding. gave me the ability to take a break and go inside if I needed to. Making me cringe just looking at those pics!
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Hay Keeganino! can ya give me a call 269 506 1249 Jeff some questions on the thinkened epoxy. THX
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Jeff, nice work!
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This is what ya get for 4 hrs of your life I think im seeing a little light at the end of the CC tunnel these are pics of last test fitting for some pieces prior to bedding, any concerns that anybody can see? tonight Im bonding the 2 transom pieces together. thanks guys for helping so far
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More pics!
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One more! New out drive should br here this week, decided to go with a alpha gen 2. will post more when ready
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Impressive man!
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Keeganino
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It will be a lot stronger than original. Should outlast our boating days!
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Bonded the transom pieces tonight, worked out great. does the back of the piece also need covered with resin before bonding to boat. thanks jeff
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Keeganino
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No I would just use thickened epoxy when you bed it to the transom. The resin is brittle without the glass and could cause separation. |
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eric lavine
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I HOPE not a SEI alpha generation 2
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connorssons
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Eric! could you comment on the sei alpha gen 2 please, Im not up to date on outdrives. just trying to upgrade on the old. thanks
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connorssons
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Eric! did a search and i think i figured out what you were saying. the out drive i got is original merc product with 90ish hours on it, the po put new gimble and water pump and seals in prior to shipping. i got the complete package prop to shifter for a great price. the other boat was crushed by a tree limb, that the reason for parting out. thanks for the concern!
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A friend of mine got into trouble with jonny law,so he is working for me for the next 3 months he is a very good body man, so he is now my personal boat wet sander. been working on sep all week got it to shine like a diamond. also did a test paint on the stripe to see if we liked color. we used a rattle can of rustoleum, a few pics!
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eric lavine
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SEI is a company out of Florida, I believe that sells imitated new Alpha drives to the general public for around 1200 bucks, they are fcn junk, great warranty, but again junk...
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eric lavine
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BTW, your bodyman, alcohol related???
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eric lavine
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for some reason, its the nature of the beast. Ive come to a conclusion, A bodyman will either never ever touch the sauce, or completely opposite and drink a fifth and wash it down with a case of beer....no in betweens....the second one becomes super driver.
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connorssons
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The new outdrive arrived last night, pretty nice! today we redrilled the transom and test fit the new OD, fits like a glove. we also cut the transome and made adjustments for the steering arm in the wood, cpes,d the edges. the wet sanding is complete and tomorrow we will be starting the buffing here is a few pics! enjoy
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connorssons
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one more
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Bri892001
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Nice!
The black outdrive looks really sharp against the clean white hull. |
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