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Originally posted by 05 210 05 210 wrote:

Originally posted by horkn horkn wrote:

   but winterizing them is really as easy as starting it up out of water and clearing any water from the cooling system simply by revving it up a little.


I do not agree Horkn. I know people who have been bit in the ass doing that. Best to use antifreeze, unless its getting stored in an area that stays above feezing. I'm not saying it would freeze, i'm saying it could. Not a risk I would take.

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None of the PWC I have ever know have ever been stored with anti freeze. No problems on any of them and none were ever stored indoors over winters.


If the PWC was not run long enough out of water, yeah, you could have a problem with freezing, but not running them long enough to clear all water from the motor is not a good thing to try. You would have to runt he motor a long time before you would risk engine trouble from overheat out of water.
It certainly would not hurt to use some AF, but it's more of a PITA to do on a PWC than a boat.
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Originally posted by C-Bass C-Bass wrote:

Originally posted by horkn horkn wrote:

It's not really the sand that is the issue, but more so what is in the sand.


What does that mean?


Rocks , clams, bottles, sticks logs..   turtles??

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We once had one ski get a clam caught in the jet intake and that was a severe PITA to remove while on lake Michigan in open water on a PWC tour to Washington Island from Sturgeon Bay..
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Mine had a fitting at the highest point in the cooling system, just unscrewed a cap and poured in till it ran out the back, about half a gallon or less. Far easier than my skinautique
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Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

Originally posted by horkn horkn wrote:

Joel,   as you know, when used properly, they don't deserve the bad rap some give them.

The problem is the majority of drivers on a PWC seem to have a different mindset and different driving skills!!
Originally posted by horkn horkn wrote:

In late fall, take the battery out and store at least inside the house and preferably put it on a trickle charger.

I highly recommend the use of a battery maintainer rather than a "trickle" charger. Unless the trickle has a full off (most do not) feature, you will end up with a ruined battery.


Definitely, it never seems to fail to find there are always idiots representing while out on a PWC.

Yes Pete, a maintaining charger is better, I just call all those trickle chargers. There is a difference.   Taking the battery out, putting it somewhere that won't freeze, and charging it up at the beginning, along with a top off of distilled water if it is a lead acid type, and another full charge before the season is a good idea and has worked on most small "toy" batteries I've come across.

Doing this has me still on my original 97 battery on my suzuki sportbike.
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All the bouncing around when riding the sit downs tear the hair off my ass cheeks if it's rough out, f that. Stand ups are cool, and not just any idiot can pilot one.


Some are better in the rough, but yeah I agree with you. I miss my hurricane though. As a sport class craft, it could handle as good as the stand ups, but still technically carry 2 people and wouldn't tip over if you came to a stop.

I also had a limited class built race kawasaki stand up. that ski was crazy fast up to 50 mph, and I had several of my sit down PWC riding friends attempt to ride it, and only 1 besides me could even get up on it and do more than swamp it. fun times...

Back to the bilge pumps o these PWC, most of the sit down ones have traditional bilge pumps, just like in our ski boats. Some only have the ones that use water pressure (or actually vacuum) to evacuate water from the hull at speed. I had an electric one on my kawi 650 standup because I liked to do a lot of submarining.

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Originally posted by horkn horkn wrote:

Originally posted by 8122pbrainard 8122pbrainard wrote:

   
I highly recommend the use of a battery maintainer rather than a "trickle" charger. Unless the trickle has a full off (most do not) feature, you will end up with a ruined battery.



Yes Pete, a maintaining charger is better, I just call all those trickle chargers. There is a difference.    

Tom,
I'm glad to hear you know the difference. I brought it up to make sure someone who doesn't, goes out and gets a trickle charger.


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I don't think this has been mentioned. Buy a bunch of fuel cans. Notice the fuel can on the wall. It is rare to see just one can. There were weekends last season where we went through 75 gallons of fuel, mostly in the PWC's. When you do the math, it makes sense. ≈100hp each, running close to full throttle when the kids are on them = many trips to the gas station.   
This photo must have been taken in the morning. The bay is calm, and the boats, minus the pontoon, are docked.
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(We once had one ski get a clam caught in the jet intake)   
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Originally posted by peter1234 peter1234 wrote:


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(We once had one ski get a clam caught in the jet intake)   


Yeah, that was funny. At least is was fresh water and not a giant clam in saltwater. LOL
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