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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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I'm sorry Bruce to have underestimated you,I know you are not one to rest on your laurels
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Riley ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-19-2004 Location: Portland, ME Status: Offline Points: 7953 |
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Notice we made an investment in a leveler. It works great with nylon rope.
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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No I didn't see that,I was looking for the extension cord and if your neighbor changed his blue tarp yet
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Riley ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-19-2004 Location: Portland, ME Status: Offline Points: 7953 |
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Mike Succi, 05210 nailed the description of that photo really well. He picked up on stuff I never even noticed. Must be why all my stuff has to stay on that side of the yard.
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boat dr ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-27-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4245 |
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Gary, ROFLMAO Too Funny
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Gary S ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: November-30-2006 Location: Illinois Status: Offline Points: 14096 |
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Yea,I'll never forget that Bruce,the way he described it just hit my funny bone.
Doc glad I could get you to chuckle,as you get older you don't take things too seriously anymore,time is too short. |
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boat dr ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-27-2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4245 |
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Gary, sure enjoyed the time together at SJRR. Life is TOO SHORT Boat dr
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TRBenj ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: June-29-2005 Location: NWCT Status: Offline Points: 21169 |
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Theres a Interceptor on CL in Dallas that came out of a Century... which probably means its a righty. Might want to consider grabbing it!
Edit: upon second glance, I noticed its not an FE. Is it a Y-block? |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Tim,
It looks like a Y block to me. (distributor aft) It also may be a lefty - See it's got a down angle Dearbo on it which will reverse the rotation. |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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I got home and looked up the engine number in my book. I've run into this before that the numbers really do not match the Interceptor code system plus there isn't a "L" or a "R" indicating rotation. The closest I can ID it is it's a 292, 185HP and a 1963. I'd still say it's a lefty since Century did run RH props and the down angle trans reversing the shaft rotation. |
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GottaSki ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() Joined: April-21-2005 Location: NE CT Status: Offline Points: 3357 |
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We summized last year that the 352 was quickly identified by the absence of a front balancer.
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"There is nothing, absolutely nothing, half so much worthwhile as messing around with boats...simply messing."
River Rat to Mole |
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TX Wind ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March-29-2011 Location: near Dallas Status: Offline Points: 333 |
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Pete,
He indicates that the carbs (plural) were removed and replaced with a four barrel indicating that it had side draft carbs. Cool feature but that is a feature of only the Y blocks. The FE blocks came with an AFB 4V. Also, 59 would be a bit early for the 352 in a boat I would think but I could be wrong. The engine was in production as early as 58 but I haven't noticed any indications of an FE Interceptor that early on in the 352...perhaps in a 332? I don't know. All that aside, the "carbs" reference gives it away as side drafts from a "Y" block. As for the numbering from Interceptor. My FE block has no date code that I can find anywhere. This happens to be more common than you might think with engine parts of that era. I don't see why Ford's marine engine division would be any better than their casting division. |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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The "N" in the code is there and that indicates it is a 292.
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Riley ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-19-2004 Location: Portland, ME Status: Offline Points: 7953 |
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No doubt a Y block, but it is has a weird number that doesn't make much sense according to their code. The Interceptor Y blocks used an Interceptor timing cover. The Interceptor FE's seem to use a Ford timing cover. That's got the funky old style exhaust manifolds which were from the 50's. What's the 2nd filter for?
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70CC ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June-12-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 338 |
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It's good to see that 67 found a good home. TX WInd, I have a 63 Nautique with an FE (it's in the Diaries)that I bought as a basket case. The 352 is long gone and I'm putting a 390 in it. I'll look forward to watching your progress.
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TX Wind ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March-29-2011 Location: near Dallas Status: Offline Points: 333 |
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Thanks Phil. I saw your Classic and that's a sweet boat. I know where a complete 352 is minus the carb that came out of 65 Chris Craft if you are interested. The guy wants 500 bucks for it. Has the manifolds on it, so it's worth that much for sure. Would be an easy swap to put a 390 block under it. The heads are basically the same and so is the manifold. I'm a little concerned about the stringer configuration. The 390 will put out in the 350 to 400 HP range with very little effort. Anybody have thoughts on this since I'm looking at a stringer job anyway? |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Jeff,
Just following the layup in the stringer threads, a decent job on the wood, epoxy resin and trust me, you will have a hull that can handle way beyond your planned HP. Your stringer job will be WAY beyond what the factory did! |
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70CC ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June-12-2006 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 338 |
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Hi Jeff,
I'm good (I think) on motors as I have 2. The first one I bought, not such a good deal, was also a frankenstein motor with a heavy non-original 390 FT block and pickup heads. The second, I won on ebay for $100 was a better deal and more complete with an FE 390 block. Both came with aluminum exhaust manifolds, so when I'm done I should have a few spare parts. The Barracuda (similar to Classic) now belongs to my friend Dave (Beentowed) -Phil |
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TX Wind ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March-29-2011 Location: near Dallas Status: Offline Points: 333 |
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I see that Mike was able to get a born on date with his SN 1486 serial number. These hulls have no hull I.D. My serial# is SN 1498. I'm just taking a shot in the dark here but I am guessing that the SN is for Ski Nautique and the 1 could possibly be a first gen marker? I've seen some #'s for earlier models and they were similar. I doubt seriously that CC was putting out 1500 Nautiques in a year back then. Can anyone help with this? And what information is available....if any...from CC regarding the boat and what options it was equipped with?
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Jeff,
The early system of IDing the hulls weren't the best but, the "SN" does stand for Ski Nautique. The serial numbers were sequential and not by years. |
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TX Wind ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March-29-2011 Location: near Dallas Status: Offline Points: 333 |
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Pete,
I saw a 63 or 4 with an ID of SN 12xx. Thats why I am assuming the numbering did not start at 0001. I'm really in the initial stages of the restoration on this boat. I fully intend to "keep it original" and since you are Mr. Original, I have some ACBS perspective to gain here. The larger 390 is going to pump out a bit more power, my understanding is 300 without really trying much. That will exceed the 71 series V drive capacity. I have purchased a late model 72. Will that be an acceptable ACBS upgrade? I'm assuming glassing the floor in and "no foam" will be acceptable as well from reading your suggestions in the stringer threads? |
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Jeff,
The 390 hooked up to a 72 would not be a problem. If judged, you would not get a point deduction for not having the original engine since it's one that was available in the SN that year. FYI, if it wasn't available but still appropriate for the year, it would be a 2 point deduction. If modern power, then 7 points!!!!! |
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Riley ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: January-19-2004 Location: Portland, ME Status: Offline Points: 7953 |
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Jeff, when we were trying to sort ours out, I was told that the 390's and 427's came with a 72.
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TX Wind ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March-29-2011 Location: near Dallas Status: Offline Points: 333 |
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Pete, I think that's kind of what I'm driving at. In 67 the 352 with a 71 tranny was available from CC. Would the 72 tranny be a problem? I'm learning that the boating industry is not nearly as well documented as the auto industry so the judging is not as critical over these more trivial issues.
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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Jeff,
Documentation really depends on the manufacturer of the boat. Chris Craft on one hand is well documented down to the color and type of upholstery. Correct Craft is the opposite. Your lucky to find out what year it was built in! ![]() |
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TX Wind ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March-29-2011 Location: near Dallas Status: Offline Points: 333 |
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So you're saying I could put a multi carb 427 in there with a 73? Uh oh...
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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I think a judge would spot this combination! ![]() |
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TX Wind ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March-29-2011 Location: near Dallas Status: Offline Points: 333 |
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Hmmmmm....I don't know Pete....a 3 deuce 427 might be worth a point. What do you think?
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8122pbrainard ![]() Grand Poobah ![]() ![]() Joined: September-14-2006 Location: Three Lakes Wi. Status: Offline Points: 41045 |
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TX Wind ![]() Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March-29-2011 Location: near Dallas Status: Offline Points: 333 |
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Of course I'm being a little tongue in cheek but I have actually considered the tri power set up just because of cool factor when cruising the lake. I'd rather be original though. Now if we could talk Carrol Shelby into Shelbyizing a 1st gen for us....well...now that might be different. Probably fat chance on that...my college roommate's dad was partners with Steve Saleen for a while...maybe a marinized Saleen pkg for the Mustang LOL.
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