Election 2012 Is Comming

thats on top of the 500 or 600 I pay a month for shtty coverage

Eric, I pay over 900 a month. But I always had awesome care, a few years back I had an infection from a minor surgical procedure, called the drs office at 8am to see if I could get in, I left the officed by 915 with free sample meds and a prescription. At the same time i was dealing with the government over a rejected form for a mortgage application. turned out to be a spelling discrepency on their end. Anyway, the helpful government employee said the form had to be correct, but that they weer not reguired or willing to tell me why it was being rejected. I will take my private care any day of the week. I see what can happen when government is involved and customer service is often the first thing that goes out the window.

eric, I want you to apologize for using the s word too. this is a family site

Dave now now, the attorney's got you in there so fast so you wouldnt create a lawsuit lol, the doc heard infection and said get him in here now
just think if you didnt have to pay one dime, that 9 hundies could go towards the lake house

My hospital doesn't have candy strippers. Looks like I'll have to shop around.

Check this out:

Seniors got good news on Wednesday: Their Social Security checks will go up 3.6% next year because of a cost-of-living increase.

That also means an estimated 10 million high-income workers may be paying a bigger tax bill.

That's because the inflation that justifies the benefit increase also will raise the amount of income subject to the portion of the payroll tax supporting Social Security.

Currently workers pay the tax on the first $106,800 of income. Starting next year, they will pay it on the first $110,100.

Normally the tax rate is 6.2% for workers and 6.2% for employers. Those who are self-employed pay the full 12.4%.

But this year workers have only paid 4.2% thanks to a temporary payroll tax holiday that Congress passed last December.

Social Security checks to rise 3.6%

It's not clear yet what the rate for 2012 will be. If President Obama has his way, it will be temporarily cut even further -- to 3.1%. Otherwise it may be maintained at 4.2% or revert to 6.2% as it is scheduled to under current law.

This year, people making $110,100 are paying $4,486 into Social Security.

Next year, if the rate reverts to 6.2%, they'd pay $2,341 more.

If the rate stays at 4.2%, they'd pay $139 more.

And if it's reduced to 3.1%, they'd pay $1,073 less.

Proponents who support an extended payroll tax holiday say letting it expire would hurt the economy.

Opponents say the idea is not very effective as economic stimulus.

To help close Social Security's long-term financing shortfall, budget experts have recommended increasing the amount of income subject to the payroll tax.

One proposal is to raise the cap to a level where the payroll tax is covering 90% of wages earned in the country, as it used to for years.

To accomplish this, Obama's fiscal commission proposed raising the cap gradually so that it covers 90% of wages by 2050. Under that proposal the taxable maximum would be $190,000 in 2020, up from the $168,000 currently projected.

The worst president EVER is in office right NOW!!

THE OBAMA ECONOMY

DJIA

01-20-2001, George Bush takes office
DJIA= 10,587

01-20-2009, George Bush leaves office
DJIA= 7949

10-20-2009, Barack Obama takes office
DJIA= 7949

Today, under Barack Obama's masterful economic policy
DJIA= 11,504

It was quite a job to gain back what Bush lost and more, but he did it. I'm firmly with the man with proven results. I live on the income from my investments. I can't afford any more Republicans.

john b wrote: It was quite a job to gain back what Bush lost and more, but he did it. I'm firmly with the man with proven results. I live on the income from my investments. I can't afford any more Republicans.

I too live off of my investments.
You are aware that the DJIA was above 14000 in 2007, during the Bush years.
So Obama did not "gain back what Bush lost and more."

Yes, he really screwed that up. It would be hard to do that poorly without a well executed plan for failure carried out with precision!

critter wrote: john b wrote: It was quite a job to gain back what Bush lost and more, but he did it. I'm firmly with the man with proven results. I live on the income from my investments. I can't afford any more Republicans. I too live off of my investments. You are aware that the DJIA was above 14000 in 2007, during the Bush years. So Obama did not "gain back what Bush lost and more."

phospher wrote: Because they don't want peoples cars spewing toxic garbage into the air that we in turn breath? What's so difficult to understand?

It is answers like this that make me ask why I even bother to ask the question........

I repeat, the EPA lets me purchase the Code Reader and clear it myself... but not let me use the Autoparts store Reader to clear it.
Do you understand that I still can clear it with about $100 ?
So how does that stop anyone from "spewing toxic garbage into the air" ?
And if you cannot afford a $100 Reader, you cannot afford to take a car
into a dealer. Here they charge $85 to read the codes.

And, a loose gas cap does not result in any additional emissions spewed into the air. It is an info code. That is why it is intermittent.

critter wrote: phospher wrote: Because they don't want peoples cars spewing toxic garbage into the air that we in turn breath? What's so difficult to understand? It is answers like this that make me ask why I even bother to ask the question........ I repeat, the EPA lets me purchase the Code Reader and clear it myself... but not let me use the Autoparts store Reader to clear it. Do you understand that I still can clear it with about $100 ? So how does that stop anyone from "spewing toxic garbage into the air" ? And if you cannot afford a $100 Reader, you cannot afford to take a car into a dealer. Here they charge $85 to read the codes. And, a loose gas cap does not result in any additional emissions spewed into the air. It is an info code. That is why it is intermittent.

Ah, sorry for the oversight I see what your saying. So I assume you went and purchased one already since it was not a big deal and doesn't discourage anyone. Also, are you sure it's an EPA regulation and not a liability issue with the autoparts store? Or perhaps it's easier for the EPA to regulate the business than the consumer? A quick google search turned up this....

EPA TARGETS ILLEGAL CHECK ENGINE LIGHT ELIMINATOR DEVICES The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) is investigating sales of devices which can turn off the check engine light when O2 sensor readings are not operating properly. Both the EPA and the California Air Resources Board (CARB) have been more aggressive in recent years in removing such products from the marketplace since they can easily be used on the highway but are usually advertised for off-road use or racing-use only. These items are commonly referred to as defeat devices since they can render inoperative a portion of the emissions control system. Manufacturers, distributors and retailers of MIL eliminator devices could face charges of violating the Clean Air Act. The agency has authority to seize and destroy these products and issue fines. Subsection (B) of 42 USC Sec. 7522 (1990 Clean Air Act Amendments) makes it illegal for any person to manufacture or sell, or offer to sell, or install, any part or component intended for use with, or as part of, any motor vehicle or motor vehicle engine, where a principal effect of the part or component is to bypass, defeat, or render inoperative any device or element of design installed on or in a motor vehicle or motor vehicle engine in compliance with regulations under this subchapter, and where the person knows or should know that such part or component is being offered for sale or installed for such use or put to such use;

eric lavine wrote: Dave now now, the attorney's got you in there so fast so you wouldnt create a lawsuit lol, the doc heard infection and said get him in here now just think if you didnt have to pay one dime, that 9 hundies could go towards the lake house

Eric, If I did not pay who would? Nothing in life worth having is free, unless of course your on welfare.

john b wrote: I normally avoid any political discussion on any website, because it usually spirals into a name calling fest. Maybe I shouldn't be surprised that I can engage with others of differing opinions on the Correct Craft site and do so civilly, exchanging viewpoints and expanding on my own. I guess Correct Craft owners are a cut above the average site fans.

John, you enter this into the Forum and then you talk to me about a
Moron light

john b wrote: You are misinformed, Critter. A gas tank with a bad seal causes hydrocarbons, (unburned fuel) one of the causes of smog and ozone in the lower atmosphere, to escape. In addition, the emission system requires the tank to be sealed to perform a self check of the engine systems to insure your engine is operating properly. These are engines are not simple devices. The operate very efficiently and produce more power per unit of displacement than thought possible in a reliable engine just 20 years ago. It is accomplished using sensors and computers. Screw up the sensor ( air leak at gas cap) and the whole system is compromised. The gas cap is an integral part of the onboard diagnostics system (OBDII) and emissions control system, which are interrelated. The cap prevents the leakage of fuel vapors from the filler neck, which can be a major source of hydrocarbon emissions. A leaking or missing gas cap can result in the release of 30 gallons of fuel per year into the atmosphere. I am sorry you can't understand the concept, but I can't make you a competent repair technician on this thread. I leave it with this. The MIL is and idiot light designed to tell you something is wrong with your car. If you can't understand that concept I believe you may need a moron light.

If you care to re-read my posts, I never questioned the Light. The fuel cap was loose. I only questioned the reason the EPA has prevented the Autoparts stores from allowing the use of their Code Readers from clearing the codes and along with it the light.

I think that this conversation is over. We have found the common denominator with your not enjoying political discussions..... If they
do not agree with you, they must be wrong and a Moron.....

OverMyHead wrote: New figures out today, anyone care to guess what metropolitan area has the highest per capita income? Must be near Wall Street where all that greed is right? How about Washington DC, Number one, You guys worship at one expensive alter. Time to move the protesters.

Not surprising, a ton of politicians, attorneys, and lobbyists.

I say bring OWS to DC too. Most all those politicians are all bought and paid for...

“Regulators have to be much more involved,” he said. “We cannot control ourselves.” -John J Mack Former CEO of Morgan Stanley.